Message from @Jab

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2018-04-14 19:52:17 UTC  

What if it's 4d chess to trick the towelheads in Europe to do terrorism, and finally get citizens to boot them out?

2018-04-14 19:52:55 UTC  

It's interesting how the oil / gas pipelines always come into play when sanctions are thrown.

2018-04-14 19:53:17 UTC  

It's always padding more pressure economically between Eurasia and Europe.

2018-04-14 19:54:01 UTC  

"Crude" oil.

2018-04-14 19:54:17 UTC  

Might start calling it "Cruel oil"

2018-04-14 19:54:52 UTC  

It's energy. Can't do shit without energy.

2018-04-14 19:55:39 UTC  

As complex as the expansion and need for more energy is, ultimately that is all at some level an action or a plan.

2018-04-14 19:56:36 UTC  

We made the need for such energy a requirement.

2018-04-14 19:57:54 UTC  

Hopefully the green energy market can get apt businessmen and stop sucking off the governments and becoming financially independent and prosperous. Having this would mean the whole game would change in regard to more traditional energy sources.

2018-04-14 19:58:31 UTC  

The only green is hydro power.

2018-04-14 19:58:36 UTC  

Also restrictions from lobbying.

2018-04-14 19:58:49 UTC  

Everything else is a scam.

2018-04-14 19:58:52 UTC  

Nobody invests in a market without risk, but not too much.

2018-04-14 19:59:17 UTC  

Solar power is still promising. Wind actually helps but I'm not sure how much more that'll improve.

2018-04-14 19:59:25 UTC  

Sea wind turbines are the best iirc.

2018-04-14 19:59:36 UTC  

There were experimental power generators using sea currents.

2018-04-14 19:59:47 UTC  

Algae power was an interesting project as well.

2018-04-14 19:59:56 UTC  

@franti baked alaska is sucking some good dick there

2018-04-14 19:59:57 UTC  

Solar generates pollution to manufacture and has high operational cost.

2018-04-14 20:00:24 UTC  

I see the operational cost going down as methods become cheaper and more designs are implemented.

2018-04-14 20:00:25 UTC  

People have this weird need to use electricity when it's not sunny outside.

2018-04-14 20:00:44 UTC  

Same when it's not windy.

2018-04-14 20:00:44 UTC  

I don't think we're quite there yet

2018-04-14 20:01:04 UTC  

Well you're going at this as if only one type of alternative is used on the grid.

2018-04-14 20:01:29 UTC  

Batteries are abysmally inefficient for storing excess energy.

2018-04-14 20:01:29 UTC  

The most toxic part of the solar plant is the battery

2018-04-14 20:02:05 UTC  

Best solution I saw for storing energy was literally pumping water back up into a dam.

2018-04-14 20:02:43 UTC  

My point is that there will be more available options for energy alternatives in the future.

2018-04-14 20:03:04 UTC  

Provided that they can live up to the current energy needs of most modern nation states, I would see the game change in the middle east for sure.

2018-04-14 20:03:23 UTC  

Or building chambers inside lakes, then pump the water out, to let it flow in through turbines.

2018-04-14 20:03:47 UTC  

Dams require maintenance as well.

2018-04-14 20:04:13 UTC  

Everything needs, but the difference is orders of magnitude.

Baked going SJW hahaha

2018-04-14 20:04:26 UTC  

It also has a footprint on the down-stream environment, based on how and where the dam is built.

2018-04-14 20:04:49 UTC  

The local government spends a ton of money to ensure the dams are safe.

2018-04-14 20:05:30 UTC  

(Dams) High risk->little impact vs little risk -> high impact (Nuclear)

2018-04-14 20:05:45 UTC  

Talking about that, did Egypt ever sort it out the Nile dams problem with its neighbors?

2018-04-14 20:05:57 UTC  

Not sure. Heard of it but didn't look into that.

2018-04-14 20:06:39 UTC  

@DanielKO No iirc