https://www.reddit.com/r/SargonofAkkad/comments/8dmmli/as_russia_nukes_half_the_web_to_ban_his_app_pavel/

```[–]DDE93[S] 17 points 8 hours ago

20 million IPs banned to prevent the operation of Telegram, because the owner wouldn’t provide all the encryption keys to the spooks.```

Good times in Russia again.

It wouldn't surprise me if they look at China's approach to the internet as an example to follow

Especially when large tech companies are willing to bend over to appease their governments

Interesting how it's only been in the last few years that people have been getting in an uproar over what Google has been doing for at least the last ten years

If memory serves me right, all that China BS went down circa 2008

Ha, maybe it was even earlier, in 2006

They did everything to appease the China gov

Then discovered that accounts of their users were getting hacked by government authorities *anyway* (like, the accounts of Chinese human rights activists, for example) and pulled the plug on the whole thing around 2010

Communism will naturally come from capitalism.

do you really believe that?

I want someone to debunk it.

because inequality widens when wealth is created it doesnt shrink

and communism is stateless. Why would anarchism naturally come to pass? how would the law and judiciary become redundant?

So why don’t we just stop the bourgeoisie from making millions of dollars off of the proletariat?

If communism is possible it would have to be controlled and it would come at a big cost

as we've already seen

You forgot that a communist society is also moneyless

There’ll be no such thing as inequality

Real communism has never been tried

I haven't forgot that. There are stages to communism

and whatever course we are on right now, it's certainly not on the road to communism.

The final stage has never been achieved therefore communism has never been tried

Yes we are, we have aspects of socialism

Or at least here in the US

That's because it utopian. It can't be achieved for dense populations.

It could work for small communities

It wouldn't deliver the living standards we have today though

It would be very basic

What’s wrong with Utopianism?

Nothing if you're interested in fiction... go ahead and indulge yourself

It’s impossible

And it’s subject to definition

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I can't find the BeardApp

I think it’s only for iPhone

Anyone up or some voice chat?

I kinda got bored.

Okay

woops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISg-NWzuDs

Hillary Clinton hasnt been well since 2016...

LMAO