Message from @meratrix

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2018-04-28 21:06:19 UTC  

It is a reason, not mine.

2018-04-28 21:06:19 UTC  

but you said it was

2018-04-28 21:06:32 UTC  

I said it was a reason that existed, not one that I choose to use.

2018-04-28 21:06:36 UTC  

oh okay

2018-04-28 21:06:40 UTC  

so you think that

2018-04-28 21:06:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/439895289222922240/Domestic_terrorism_incidents_by_type.png

2018-04-28 21:06:52 UTC  

terrorism in a country should be a non-factor when it comes to immigration

2018-04-28 21:07:15 UTC  

No, but I think the wartorne area is a much better argument and so choose to go with that one.

2018-04-28 21:07:40 UTC  

It is now blatantly obvious you are trying for a gotcha moment with that above statement.

2018-04-28 21:07:57 UTC  

oh okay then so you do think that an increased propensity for emigrants from a certain country to be terrorists should be a factor when it comes to setting immigration policy toward that country?

2018-04-28 21:08:29 UTC  

I can acknowledge the validity of an argument without choosing to uphold it, I have my own, which is the wartorne area.

2018-04-28 21:09:20 UTC  

of course but regardless of whether or not this is a reason you would use for restricting immigration from iran you still think that this is a valid reason to restrict immigration from a place, therefore, you think that generalization is not necessarily wrong

2018-04-28 21:09:39 UTC  

No

2018-04-28 21:10:39 UTC  

I think it is a reason some use, and it has it's merits, but it also has the obvious problem, which is generalization, thus I choose not to use it.

2018-04-28 21:10:54 UTC  

but did you not just say that it is a valid reason to use

2018-04-28 21:11:19 UTC  

One thing wrong with an argument does not make it invalid.

2018-04-28 21:11:23 UTC  

i asked you if you thought that the propensity for emigrants from a certain area to be terrorists should be a non-factor when it comes to immigration policy and you said no

2018-04-28 21:11:37 UTC  

Yes, for me, not the case for everyone, I speak for myself.

2018-04-28 21:11:55 UTC  

of course, for you, this means that generalization is sometimes okay

2018-04-28 21:12:25 UTC  

For some it may be, I choose to avoid it.

2018-04-28 21:12:36 UTC  

Don't ask me to defend an idea which I do not subscribe too.

2018-04-28 21:12:38 UTC  

we are going in circles now

2018-04-28 21:12:49 UTC  

Because of you.

2018-04-28 21:13:02 UTC  

if you choose to avoid it then surely you don't think that the propensity of emigrants from a certain area to be terrorists should be a factor when setting immigration policy?

2018-04-28 21:13:27 UTC  

I wouldn't use it if I were in charge, but then I'm not in charge now am I.

2018-04-28 21:13:35 UTC  

you wouldn't ever use it?

2018-04-28 21:14:07 UTC  

Unless I knew without a shadow of a doubt that the specific person trying to emigrate was a terrorist I would not use it.

2018-04-28 21:14:19 UTC  

what if we had a hypothetical example where 50% of the population of a country are terrorists who will carry out attacks on infidels if they are allowed into the united states

2018-04-28 21:14:35 UTC  

And that is where the conversation becomes pointless

2018-04-28 21:14:52 UTC  

it isn't pointless because i am getting to the heart of the principle

2018-04-28 21:15:16 UTC  

the tankie is talking again

2018-04-28 21:15:17 UTC  

great

2018-04-28 21:15:46 UTC  

Well, based on the hypothetical you presented, we know that 50% are terrorists, and in order to know that we must know who they are, so we know who we can and cannot let in the country.

2018-04-28 21:16:12 UTC  

let's say god came down from the heavens and told us that 50% of the people are terrorists

2018-04-28 21:16:16 UTC  

and we don't know who they are

2018-04-28 21:16:24 UTC  

🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦

2018-04-28 21:16:25 UTC  

should we place further restrictions on immigration from this country

2018-04-28 21:16:38 UTC  

Where done here, this is retarded.

2018-04-28 21:16:59 UTC  

meratrix do you understand the value of a hypothetical

2018-04-28 21:17:11 UTC  

I have a hypothetical

2018-04-28 21:17:20 UTC  

Do you understand the value of a slightly realistic hypothetical.