I talk with them all the time

ive only seen sargons vid about him, not this response to it

then you dont need something very quick. be thorough

if youre in the middle of an argument, say you have work tomorrow and buy some time to organize your points

or you can be honest and say youre pretty sure theyre wrong but you need to factcheck some things first

i doubt that his argument has a very solid foundation because he is a cuck

I want to debunk badmouse once & for all

And the whole shifting of blame

How is it private sector when this state controls the ' commanding heights of the economy'?

well when he says "the overwhelming majority" is priv sec, what's in the minority?

look for where he skip over details

They use price controls like on toilet paper, now they have a shortage of it

he gives you everything you need to debunk his argument right here, as long as he is wrong

your best tool is their sources

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Use their tools to destroy them

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@SCP-049 It comes in sprints on any given hour

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Frunrun.es%2Frr-es-plus%2F297797%2Fencovi-2016-74-de-los-venezolanos-perdio-mas-de-8-kilos-de-peso-el-ano-pasado.html&edit-text=&act=url
http://runrun.es/rr-es-plus/297797/encovi-2016-74-de-los-venezolanos-perdio-mas-de-8-kilos-de-peso-el-ano-pasado.html
https://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/75930/chavez_moves_to_seize_oil_contractors_assets_friday/
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/venezuelas-playbook-communist-manifesto
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international-affairs/327462-venezuelan-leaders-thieve-industries-bankrupt-them-and-starve-the-people
https://venezuelanalysis.com/video/6124
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/22/venezuela-economic-crisis-guardian-briefing
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuelas-government-seizes-us-owned-oil-rigs/
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Ummm link shortener please.

@Legiondude I noticed lol

Thanks

This guy is asking me what makes Venezuela socialist lol

we go from 0⃣ to 💯 *real* quick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Socialist_Party_of_Venezuela

Guys we can't allow them to get away with this historical revisionist propaganda like they always do.

This is a rare moment where we can see communist socialism failing right before our eyes and the socialist apologists are trying to paint a different picture.

So infuriating

Another 'thats not real socialism' line of crap

If it fails, it's not the communist utopia.

"not real socialism"

"that's *state capitalism*"

and on it on it goes

The "intellectuals" didn't accept it when the Soviet Union failed, they won't accept it now.

As Sargon pointed out, Karl Marx said it would only work if the entire world turned communist. So, if a commie state fails, it can always be blamed on capitalism undermining it, by working better than communism.

what do you call that sort of logic? its not exactly circular, yes?

perhaps closer to infalsifiable

ty

That's the best thing *about* socialism/communism

Because it's so fantastical, any time an attempt to implement it fails, you can dismiss it as 'not being the real thing'

i need like a flashcard for my logical fallacies

It's not even wrong.

I think the overwhelming majority of people look at capitalism and can recognise that it is not a utopian system - they can spot the rusted pipes and leaky faucets

Communism (or the attempts to implement by way of socialism) is responding to these problems by removing the roof from the house and flooding the basement