https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Wigan_Pier

are you saying it's the bourgeoisie advocating for their own overthrow or what

``Left Book Club`` my how times have changed

the bourgeoisie don't consciously advocate for their own overthrow, it's just part of their unconscious bias because they have not had to suffer any real hardships

I would argue the modern marxist is the bourgeoisie

where are all of these capitalists who push marxism

and has been in britain for the past century

@NightOwl I would argue the same

based on what

i don't think that like bill gates or jeff bezos or elon musk are marxists

are they middle class?

the link I've just sent

no, they aren't

they're bourgeois

or do you not understand what "bourgeois" means?

they are capitalists

Jordan Peterson talked about this actually

let me find a link

no, they are the middle class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVJOTYzAW1U

they were under feudalism

under capitalism they became the dominant class

and when I was politically activist I found a lot of middle class people to be marxist

^

you don't find marxist leaning opinions in working class media either

like the sun

you find in papers like the guardian

which working class people do not read

because the upper class have responsibilities and the lower classes actually work @NightOwl

in the west you don't sure

Wait is sargon even on this server?

We're all Sargon

I am Sargon

@Seetor nope

What's the point then

what's the point of life?

what's the point of anything?

praising someone like otoya yamaguchi as a liberal seems strange

considering he was a japanese imperialist who despised liberalism