Message from @versterven

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2018-05-08 07:21:05 UTC  

not pederasty

2018-05-08 07:21:46 UTC  

that's really ahistorical

2018-05-08 07:22:04 UTC  

a lot of early marxists thought homosexuality was a symptom of "bourgeois decadence"

2018-05-08 07:22:54 UTC  

marxism is just bourgeois decadence

2018-05-08 07:23:03 UTC  

^

2018-05-08 07:23:05 UTC  

thats because marxists are wrong about everything

2018-05-08 07:23:06 UTC  

pin

2018-05-08 07:24:47 UTC  

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-05-08 07:24:52 UTC  

Yaron is my nig

2018-05-08 07:24:52 UTC  

how is marxism bourgeois decadence

2018-05-08 07:26:03 UTC  

marxism is a result of the bourgeois becoming too fat and lazy because they have no actual issues, so they have to invent their own problems

2018-05-08 07:26:34 UTC  

are you saying it's the bourgeoisie advocating for their own overthrow or what

2018-05-08 07:27:36 UTC  

``Left Book Club`` my how times have changed

2018-05-08 07:29:03 UTC  

the bourgeoisie don't consciously advocate for their own overthrow, it's just part of their unconscious bias because they have not had to suffer any real hardships

2018-05-08 07:29:50 UTC  

I would argue the modern marxist is the bourgeoisie

2018-05-08 07:29:54 UTC  

where are all of these capitalists who push marxism

2018-05-08 07:29:58 UTC  

and has been in britain for the past century

2018-05-08 07:30:03 UTC  

@NightOwl I would argue the same

2018-05-08 07:30:14 UTC  

based on what

2018-05-08 07:30:50 UTC  

i don't think that like bill gates or jeff bezos or elon musk are marxists

2018-05-08 07:30:57 UTC  

are they middle class?

2018-05-08 07:31:02 UTC  

the link I've just sent

2018-05-08 07:31:04 UTC  

no, they aren't

2018-05-08 07:31:11 UTC  

they're bourgeois

2018-05-08 07:31:26 UTC  

or do you not understand what "bourgeois" means?

2018-05-08 07:31:50 UTC  

they are capitalists

2018-05-08 07:31:54 UTC  

Jordan Peterson talked about this actually

2018-05-08 07:31:57 UTC  

let me find a link

2018-05-08 07:31:58 UTC  

no, they are the middle class

2018-05-08 07:32:19 UTC  

they were under feudalism

2018-05-08 07:32:24 UTC  

under capitalism they became the dominant class

2018-05-08 07:33:42 UTC  

and when I was politically activist I found a lot of middle class people to be marxist

2018-05-08 07:33:48 UTC  

^

2018-05-08 07:33:50 UTC  

you don't find marxist leaning opinions in working class media either

2018-05-08 07:34:00 UTC  

like the sun

2018-05-08 07:34:07 UTC  

you find in papers like the guardian

2018-05-08 07:34:16 UTC  

which working class people do not read

2018-05-08 07:34:18 UTC  

because the upper class have responsibilities and the lower classes actually work @NightOwl