democracy is for plebs, rep republics is where its at

no i think modern social democrats tend to advocate for welfare capitalism with some essential industries and services being publically owned

@versterven thats not socialism

you're thinking os social-liberals

yeah that's my point

they're wrong

social-liberalism promotes free market capitalism, welfarism, and some state interventions

>communist whore
>pulling some social engineering stunt
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the line between modern socdems and soclibs is blurry

not all promote (free) market though

the ordoliberals did

probably the best known social-liberals

soc-dems are faggots, soc-lib are mild faggots

Soc-dems are against capitalism

yeah i don't think modern socdems are opposed to capitalism

most parties in britain are soc-dem

Green, lib-dems, Labour, SNP

girls only like boys who are kapitaliste
trust me

so you think the lib-dems are anti-capitalist?

"yeah I don't think"

the lib-dems are more concerned with equality than they are markets

muh fee fees

they call themselves social-liberals

and if you read their manifestos, they want to give everyone free access to university level education

**everyone**

so what

i mean what suggests that they are anti-capitalist

So they are soc-dems

yeah but you said that social democracy is anti-capitalist

so why do you believe that the libdems are opposed to capitalism

because of free college?

why are you such a faggot @versterven ?

is it because you never got laid?

you sad, lonely incel

please don't go shoot up a school, because of your sexual frustrations

Ok.if we want to get into the history of the lib-dems they are split by lib-dems but a majority are soc-dems

they came out of the SDP

so a majority are opposed to capitalism

they merged with liberals, some call them orangebook libs

and if you look at the SDP it was ex-labour people

Roy Jenkins being the best example