Message from @Chris McLean Baron Lord of Hell

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2018-05-14 02:28:04 UTC  

venezuela is socialist because they have a socialist party in power

2018-05-14 02:28:14 UTC  

so going through wars means they aren't capitalist?

2018-05-14 02:28:31 UTC  

@versterven What i mean is that they have no time to set up a proper goverment

2018-05-14 02:28:40 UTC  

If you fight with guns, instead of trade, you're a savage.

2018-05-14 02:28:49 UTC  

they keep getting attacked by Warlords, terrorists, and other countries

2018-05-14 02:29:01 UTC  

Look at fucking Somalia

2018-05-14 02:29:02 UTC  

wait so was france socialist in 2013?

2018-05-14 02:29:19 UTC  

France was dumb in 2013

2018-05-14 02:29:24 UTC  

Capitalism means private property rights, market with voluntary transactions and the ability to own the means of production.

2018-05-14 02:29:24 UTC  

the french have always been socialist people

2018-05-14 02:29:26 UTC  

Still are tho

2018-05-14 02:29:54 UTC  

If your private property isn't protected....

2018-05-14 02:29:59 UTC  

i would say capitalism is a system characterized by private ownership over the means of production, production for exchange, wage labor, and capital accumulation, all of which describe venezuela's economic model perfectly

2018-05-14 02:30:01 UTC  

How is being a war-torn shithole giving you property rights, and voluntary transactions?

2018-05-14 02:30:14 UTC  
2018-05-14 02:30:23 UTC  

What?

2018-05-14 02:30:27 UTC  

it's okay to be retarded @versterven

2018-05-14 02:30:28 UTC  

What are you saying?

2018-05-14 02:30:35 UTC  

Guys chill

2018-05-14 02:30:37 UTC  

The best form and first appearance of communism were the anaptists that took over münster in the 1500s

2018-05-14 02:30:40 UTC  

lets not be dicks

2018-05-14 02:30:45 UTC  

nah

2018-05-14 02:30:48 UTC  

can there be a rank worse than snowflake for this guy?

2018-05-14 02:30:55 UTC  

they're a fucking tankie, retard, and rascist

2018-05-14 02:31:03 UTC  

ohhh

2018-05-14 02:31:05 UTC  

I can't be chill

2018-05-14 02:31:12 UTC  

didn't realize tankies were commies

2018-05-14 02:31:13 UTC  

trust me i agree with you guys

2018-05-14 02:31:14 UTC  

🚁

2018-05-14 02:31:28 UTC  

i thought tankies were people that are into tanks

2018-05-14 02:31:28 UTC  

Be civil

2018-05-14 02:31:33 UTC  

Be civil

2018-05-14 02:31:34 UTC  

yes

2018-05-14 02:31:37 UTC  

Marvel civil war 2

2018-05-14 02:31:40 UTC  

This state capitalism argument is a cope out. You know that @versterven .

2018-05-14 02:31:58 UTC  

what do you mean

2018-05-14 02:32:02 UTC  

State capitalism isn't capitalism

2018-05-14 02:32:09 UTC  

^

2018-05-14 02:32:17 UTC  

i never said anything about "state capitalism"

2018-05-14 02:32:27 UTC  

If it involves the state at any point, it's no longer a free market

2018-05-14 02:32:28 UTC  

That venezuela is capitalistic, because the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the state.