then yeah sure I'd take that

Charismatic, personally i think that means that he is someone with conviction and ability to make others see it. Could be it is more prevalent trait than many people like to think.

Howdy folks!

Heya you.

its got to be coupled with a capacity to see the moods of culture (for lack of a better term), picking good targets and timing is as much a skill

Problem with conviction is that a LOT of times most ignorant of people are the ones with most of it.

Since they fail to see how complex the issues really are.

(But i have been sipping the sweet summer wine for a while now so all i say is a bit more suspect than usual.)

Yep, it also does not help that this modern world we live in has grown to be more complex.

I always pop here when a much larger conversation is brewing... could someone give me the gist of this?

Still developing Kalis, talking about charisma but it can go to any direction really.

Cool... interesting and abstract.

I mean look at computers, i might claim that NO one person truly understands them yet they are the actuators of the modern world we live in.

I'd say you can understand the base concept of computers, but the result of computing is almost infinite.

No i mean computers in general. The material sciences which move to logic gates and then programming (with several levels of it) and then to networking.

And then you add the social layer to it.

No @Omsomething its fairies. Fairies make computers work at the basic level.

One of these days you might be correct.

Pretty sure it will still be based off that logic gate system you refered to.

Yes, it is based on but each level of what makes a computer is its own level. And no single human, or VERY few has a true deep understanding on all of those levels.

And this is true in most all in the modern societies.

ooh

logic gates?

NAND FTW

I think I know what you mean, but the analogy of a computer at the base level is something I'd disagree with.

I don't even know what you're arguing

@Kalisme yeah but if you spent the time to learn the foundational elements of computing enough to be able to classify yourself an expect on it. You've precluded yourself from ever really having the time to learn the practical level above. So your stuck with a theoretical knowledge that is 'pure' but basically useless, or a practical knowledge that doesn't even remember what the original building blocks were.

but cedar logic simulator (logism for mac) is pretty cool

@EmptyE not entirely true

Can you code assembly?

as someone who's worked with people who were working at MIT while computers were being developed

I know those people exist

Me? A bit.

I mean thats a level of Autist that I buy exist, but scares me a little

I reckon atheists are more charitable then religious people

oh yeah

and they'd probably lack the social skills to tell anyone about it 😛

also my friend group, half of us have some form of high-functioning autism

so we built a minecraft computer after finding out about little man computers

also we learned a bit of assembly

the only bit I'm really missing is the kernal