No, it's a full package

i disagree

If there are enough good parts I'll put up with some stuff I don't like, but there's nothing alluring about american Christianity

because it's mostly cultural

By which I mean protestantism in all its forms, catholicism requires more belief than I have to give

people who would call themselves christian might not have any real interest in it

Yes and that makes me not take the religion seriously

lol

I know nothing about Sikhism but they all take it seriously, so I also take it seriously

i don't get that logic

or whatever it is

Well you were talking about the cultural aspect

If the practitioners of a religion visibly care about it consistently, that gives them credibility

If they only pull it out of their ass when its convenient I think they're liars

and that is why i'm saying you need to separate the teachings from the followers

No, the two of them are the package

you are criticizing people

The religion as it is is the sum total of the written beliefs and actual practices

hmmmm

but you said you will judge the religion based on the practitioners, if you include people who arent serious, then that isnt an accurate assessment

If the practitioners are not serious than they do not take the religion seriously

If nobody involved in the religion takes it seriously why should I?

Right, that's why I just take the average

@M4Gunner
Agreed

i didnt say no one, I'm trying to make a point about painting with a broad brush

By subgroup, of course

Well I have my own beliefs about divinity and all that but I'm not about to found my own religion. You can't define religion person by person

For me a religion is like a big shared thought

If nobody can agree on it it's not much of anything

i disagree

I'm not particularly religious though, I'm just not an atheist

Neither am I

i think your statements are a big faulty

k

Why

you are making an assumption that it's all or nothing with some of this stuff, which doesn't make sense to me

Could you be more specific?

yeah

"If nobody can agree on it it's not much of anything"

Thanks

Ok, not EVERYONE has to agree on EVERYTHING