Message from @Hotzendorf
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Actually, Kazza, they DID undo it after wartime
Defense budget
Dude the defense budget in the UK is like 2%
It's just that the 16th Amendment made it legal in peacetime
Oh UK?
Repeal the 17th amendment, change my mind.
Uhhh
25% goes to folk not wanting to work, the other 50% to fatties on the NHS
I'm honestly on board with repealing the 16th and 17th Amendments
What are they?
16th is for peacetime income tax in the US
17th is for direct election of Senators
Why the 17th?
Because the Senate's point is to represent the states, on a government level, not be a popularity contest
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The fact that we're looking at a real possibility of seeing a Kid Rock versus Eminem race for US Senate in Michigan makes for a VERY good case against the 17th Amendment
it also set the US on the road of ending layer cake federalism, which had the final nail driven into its coffin by the New Deal
Does democracy work
If people can vote for their own votes and money
Democracy needs restraints and counterbalances to avoid mob rule
to avoid a Tyranny of the Majority
Literally what'd stop him, though?
hello#
The founding fathers put so much thought into everything they put into the constitution and people are working day and night to undo it all
And if he did run, what'd stop his victory?
What would stop a man who's known for being on a TV show from running for president 🤔 🤔
@Kazza That's why they also developed the US Civil Religion to culturally defend the Charters of Freedom
@Hotzendorf Certain states passing laws to return the job of choosing state electors to the state legislatures
Fair enough
The Election of 1789 was a mixed bagof popular votes and state legislatures on a state-by-state basis
eminem or kid rock having an actual chance of winning is a pretty clear sign that the quality of professional politicians is severely lacking.
Election of 1789?
What
@Deleted User Hence the campaign to repeal the 17th
Ok then
That's fun
How about we just kill everyone that disagrees with me
yeah, i'm with you there mr boat man.
Then the world would work perfectly