Message from @franti

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2018-06-22 13:28:09 UTC  

@franti The author of the original saw fit to lump in VA and DHS with DOD, so I thought it was only fair to do the same

2018-06-22 13:28:17 UTC  

Yannow, I went to NYC once

2018-06-22 13:28:22 UTC  

and saw the national debt clock

2018-06-22 13:28:25 UTC  

That quote I have that image of is from annexation.ca

2018-06-22 13:28:31 UTC  

your country was going up by like 100,000 per secon

2018-06-22 13:28:33 UTC  

(my screen wasn't scrolling so I missed all the messages)

2018-06-22 13:28:42 UTC  

14,000,000,000,000 and rising constantly

2018-06-22 13:28:48 UTC  

the fuck is wrong with yuo guys

2018-06-22 13:28:50 UTC  

Nowadays we have this http://www.usdebtclock.org/

2018-06-22 13:28:53 UTC  

Portable debt clock!

2018-06-22 13:28:56 UTC  

With details

2018-06-22 13:28:58 UTC  

that's debt

2018-06-22 13:29:03 UTC  

the pink line is that year's deficit

2018-06-22 13:29:09 UTC  

which is added to the total debt

2018-06-22 13:29:31 UTC  

Basically they spent 1.645 trillion more dollars than they raked in with tax receipts

2018-06-22 13:29:53 UTC  

@King Canuck Here's the Canadian equivalent http://www.debtclock.ca/

2018-06-22 13:30:10 UTC  

@RMS_Gigantic Do you have one for the EU?

2018-06-22 13:30:19 UTC  

The whole EU?

2018-06-22 13:30:24 UTC  

No

2018-06-22 13:30:31 UTC  

Specific states in it

2018-06-22 13:30:43 UTC  

Like France UK Germany

2018-06-22 13:30:58 UTC  
2018-06-22 13:31:24 UTC  

@King Canuck Also remember that a big part of why our debt is so large is social security and medicare/medcaid

2018-06-22 13:31:45 UTC  

Dat Estonia

2018-06-22 13:32:20 UTC  

The nice thing about the US is how little of our debt is owed to anyone else

2018-06-22 13:32:27 UTC  

Most of our debt is owed to ourselves

2018-06-22 13:32:52 UTC  

And as the dominant economy in the world, we're our own main debt collector

2018-06-22 13:33:02 UTC  

What's anyone else gonna do, fight us?

2018-06-22 13:35:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/459713053861216279/debt_holders.png

2018-06-22 13:36:50 UTC  

```Chinese lenders snap up so much of the U.S. debt for one basic economic reason: protecting its “dollar-pegged” yuan.

Ever since the establishment of the Bretton Woods System in 1944, the value of China’s currency, the yuan, has been connected or “pegged” to the value of the U.S. dollar. This helps China hold down the cost of its exported goods, which tends to make China, like any nation, a stronger performer in international trade.

With the U.S. dollar considered one of the safest and most stable currencies in the world, dollar-pegging helps the Chinese government maintain the stability and value of the yuan. In May 2018, one Chinese yuan was worth about $0.16 U.S. dollar. ```

2018-06-22 13:37:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/459713459303481354/Screenshot_546.png

2018-06-22 13:37:24 UTC  

Update on Slovak pooling

2018-06-22 13:37:29 UTC  

8% goes to Chjina

2018-06-22 13:37:40 UTC  

The Federal Reserve has 11.3%

2018-06-22 13:37:54 UTC  

the social security trust fund has 19%

2018-06-22 13:38:40 UTC  

That last item or two is intra-governmental debt

2018-06-22 13:38:47 UTC  

That poll *seems* quite different from the last one I saw