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2018-06-27 11:13:57 UTC  

It does exist

2018-06-27 11:14:05 UTC  

Yes I fucking mad, I absolutely hate the spreading of misinformation

2018-06-27 11:14:09 UTC  

It's a nuclear reaction

2018-06-27 11:14:17 UTC  

@Baraban which is a process that takes more power than it provides, next please.

2018-06-27 11:14:23 UTC  

I'm not spreading misinformation, dude

2018-06-27 11:14:33 UTC  

Im saying it was a project

2018-06-27 11:14:37 UTC  

That a company

2018-06-27 11:14:41 UTC  

Is working on

2018-06-27 11:15:16 UTC  

'Ratan Tata, who among others also owns the Indian car manufacturer Tata Motors, will fund a project of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) to research new ways of using the hydrogen in water as a replacement for fuel.'

2018-06-27 11:15:24 UTC  

So it's not a water powered car, it's a hydrogen powered car.

2018-06-27 11:16:06 UTC  

is there a difference between a chemical reaction and a nuclear reaction?

2018-06-27 11:16:11 UTC  

"Tata has given $15 million to fund the research being conducted by MIT professor Daniel Nocera on using water as auto fuel. The project involves generating hydrogen by splitting water and storing it in a safe can to drive an automobile"

2018-06-27 11:16:23 UTC  

*water as auto fuel*

2018-06-27 11:16:36 UTC  

Generating hydrogen from the water, yes

2018-06-27 11:16:42 UTC  

Jesus fucking christ the <:thonk:397491814539591701> here is incredible.

2018-06-27 11:16:52 UTC  

@Deleted User In a chemical reaction you don't split the atom

2018-06-27 11:17:19 UTC  

What are all of you, 12? Not yet having completed the most basic courses in chemistry and/or physics in middle school?

2018-06-27 11:17:22 UTC  

it's not about splitting atoms though

2018-06-27 11:17:40 UTC  

Water itself -cannot- be used as a fuel

2018-06-27 11:17:44 UTC  

it's separating molecules

2018-06-27 11:18:16 UTC  

Chemical reactions happens with the electrons.

2018-06-27 11:19:44 UTC  

You can split water up into hydrogen and oxygen, which can be combined to either combust (I.E., run a standard internal combustion engine on them) or be used in hydrogen fuel cells (where basically the same thing happens, the recombination of hydrogen and oxygen into water, but via a circuitous route that produces electricity) but running any kind of engine on straight water is not possible, because anything you do with water requires more energy to do that thing to it than you'd get from any process that produces energy from it.

2018-06-27 11:19:58 UTC  

separating water into hydrogen and oxygen isnt a nuclear reaction right?

2018-06-27 11:20:04 UTC  

No, it isn't.

2018-06-27 11:20:06 UTC  

It's chemical.

2018-06-27 11:20:22 UTC  

thats what i thought

2018-06-27 11:21:36 UTC  

so it's not a nuclear reactor Baraban

2018-06-27 11:21:42 UTC  

I remember someone on the internet referring to it as a nuclear reactor

2018-06-27 11:21:56 UTC  

Well, someone on the internet claims it, that must mean they're right.

2018-06-27 11:21:57 UTC  

But I guess it shouldn't really be

2018-06-27 11:22:11 UTC  

I think it was on Linus Tech Tips

2018-06-27 11:22:26 UTC  

maybe they were talking about an actual nuclear powered car, not the water one

2018-06-27 11:22:27 UTC  

Even Black Science Man didn't know about the practical details of water electrolysis. He thought the Space Shuttle could be fueled by just breaking down water. Somebody corrected him, it's way too inefficient to do it that way, they just collect hydrogen from oil wells, and oxygen from the atmosphere.

2018-06-27 11:22:57 UTC  

Exactly. Splitting up water via electrolysis is not a viable way of producing fuel.

2018-06-27 11:23:22 UTC  

The oxygen in particular, is nasty to whatever conductor you're using.

2018-06-27 11:23:35 UTC  

It's done on nuclear submarines because they have power to spare, but even there, they're changing out electrolysis plants for reverse osmosis plants.

2018-06-27 11:23:39 UTC  

which is why i dont get why these people are trying it now

2018-06-27 11:23:54 UTC  

All science textbooks talk about how you can do it at home, everyone who tries it, finds no oxygen at all, only hydrogen. Because the oxygen corrodes the terminal.

2018-06-27 11:24:12 UTC  

maybe they are just that far behind, and cant use the internet

2018-06-27 11:24:26 UTC  

The oxygen does get produced, it just reacts with whatever metal is being used for the conductor.