Message from @Mickey D

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2018-07-18 06:07:15 UTC  

So anyways, I'd like to provide a list of reasons why Trump is treating Putin this way

2018-07-18 06:11:50 UTC  

1. It weakens his legitimacy by accepting that Russian meddling won his election
2. Being critical of, or hateful of dictators have never yielded positive results
3. The west has burnt almost all easy avenues for punishing Russia. Any further will involve significant self harm to the western nations. So any verbal accusations would carry no weight.
4. There isn't actually any reasonable way to stop the meddling that occured, i.e. facebook posts, twitter bots, etc without sacrificing significant amounts of public freedoms, so the only way to minimize it is to try to convince Russia to stop doing it. Trying to be on good terms with Russia is an approach we have never truly tried before.
5. It generates large volumes of publicity. For Trump, it appears all publicity is good publicty to varying degrees.

2018-07-18 06:12:08 UTC  

These are a few of my thoughts

2018-07-18 06:16:57 UTC  

Found this on Twitter:

Twelve theories, some more plausible than others, on why Trump does not accept Intelligence Community verdict on Russian election interference:
1) He really doesn't believe it.
2) He can't admit anything that casts doubt on his victory.
3) He thinks it's an Obama plot.
4) He doesn't want to give even an inch to his adversaries.
5) He really wants to improve relations with Russia.
6) He believes Sen. Charles "Six ways from Sunday" Schumer, suspects elements of IC are out to get him.
7) He really did collude.
8) He's been a Russian asset since the 1980s.
9) Putin has something on him.
10) He's just messing with the political class.
11) He enjoys media freakout.
12) He was paying attention during the Iraq War.

2018-07-18 06:18:31 UTC  

#4 is quite evident from past actions. He will only give an inch if he can take a yard in return

2018-07-18 06:18:33 UTC  

Still the centrist baybee

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/469025167050539008/Screenshot_20180718-114246.png

2018-07-18 06:19:01 UTC  

When he admitted Obama's birth location, he summoned all the media to broadcast him

2018-07-18 06:19:19 UTC  

and spend 1 hr promoting himself on camera, on CNN, ABC, etc

2018-07-18 06:19:30 UTC  

And in the last 2 minutes, he said oh ya, Obama was American

2018-07-18 06:19:38 UTC  

The media was furious

2018-07-18 06:20:22 UTC  

#5, #11 are also plausible

2018-07-18 06:21:16 UTC  

this is one of the reasons why I don't buy into the idea that he is an idiot

2018-07-18 06:21:20 UTC  
2018-07-18 06:21:32 UTC  

He plays his strategic assets far too well

2018-07-18 06:21:36 UTC  

never giving them out for free

2018-07-18 06:21:39 UTC  
2018-07-18 06:21:50 UTC  

and always using everything to his benefit

2018-07-18 06:21:50 UTC  

slut

2018-07-18 06:21:56 UTC  

poo poo head

2018-07-18 06:22:01 UTC  

POO POO HEAD

2018-07-18 06:22:04 UTC  

YOU SMELL LIKE

2018-07-18 06:22:05 UTC  

@M4Gunner retarded ass teamates

2018-07-18 06:22:06 UTC  

BEANS

2018-07-18 06:22:48 UTC  

are classical liberals right wing?

2018-07-18 06:22:56 UTC  

They are now

2018-07-18 06:22:58 UTC  

I tend not to jump to such a conclusion

2018-07-18 06:23:19 UTC  

just because dave rubin says so I don't want to automatically believe it

2018-07-18 06:23:31 UTC  

I, agah-ree...with that

2018-07-18 06:23:32 UTC  

this is mine

2018-07-18 06:23:45 UTC  

a dirty neolib

2018-07-18 06:23:46 UTC  

It's been a while since I took the 8 values test

2018-07-18 06:23:54 UTC  

but I did use spekr

2018-07-18 06:23:57 UTC  

and I got liberal

2018-07-18 06:24:18 UTC  

If you're a 'classical liberal' still after seeing how corrupt republics can get with large populations, and haven't gone 'Libertarian', you're not paying attention.

2018-07-18 06:24:47 UTC  

As if Libertarianism is perfect

2018-07-18 06:25:00 UTC  

It's not about 'perfect'

2018-07-18 06:25:05 UTC  

I keep thinking about how very separate the cultures are from one state or region to another

2018-07-18 06:25:15 UTC  

I am a firm believer in the idea that none of the pure political ideologies are ever going to work

2018-07-18 06:25:16 UTC  

we're more or less

2018-07-18 06:25:19 UTC  

a nation of strangers