Now? We don't really wage war as often, now do we?

@MountainMan He's just an edgy New Atheist

@Fitzydog Understandable. Thanks for the warning.

You don't know anything about me asshat

@𝕾𝖍𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝕹𝖔𝖙 𝕭𝖊 𝕴𝖓𝖋𝖗𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖉 Do you have any ideas as to how truth could be taught to be valued (particularly in a noble manner), provided you are completely convinced that it cannot be?

@codenamecam No. It's been engrained in Europe for 3000 years.

Perhaps there is a corrolation of the growth of athiesm and SjWism

Jusrlt saying the chart shows similarities

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Do you know where I can see this chart?

I dont really see how they could correlate.

Oh, this goes back like 10 years on Youtube, especially with Sargon. SJWs and New Atheists heavily overlap

Take a chart. draw one line on and angle and draw another slightly below that one

name bottome time up down growth

done

Atheism+ are not representative of all atheists

Hard to make a chart when I don't know the numbers

i think atheism contributed to a lot of the crap that's been happening since the 60's

There is a corrolation @Goblin_Slayer_Floki. The death of religion has caused people to replace god with ideology. Humans have an innate need to work towards a 'higher' purpose and feel included in community. Secularism failed to replace the community of church with anything so people made community centered around ideology.

Athiesm+ was the inevitable conclusion

@Fredrickbismark I smell commies

Yeah, if you're blaming the world's problems and history of atrocities on Religion, well you're part of the problem lol

Basically @Fredrickbismark

@Fredrickbismark well said tho. I agree.

He said what I meant just with more words

yeah

Personally, I may not believe in a literal deity or God, but I'm sure as hell not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

@Fitzydog Do you know how the moral value of truth engrained in Europe 3000 years ago if you can't teach someone to value truth?

I was more general, but the problems with new atheism and sjwism are symptomatic of the same societal problems that lead to the atrocities of the 20th century.

@codenamecam Well.... Greek philosophy and a desire for truth above all else, seeking a rational explanation for all things regardless of the 'sacredness'. Nothing is off limits.

I will be frank. Athiesm split into 2 factions. The ones who replace the church for science 1 for 1, and the Athiesm+ with idiology in the place of church

both sects are simply filling the void with something else

@codenamecam If you asked an Islamic scholar to write a teleological proof that God exists, he'd probably cut your head off.

big

Best answer is that you cant

A belief is a belief

Some things cant be known.

That doesn't stop Catholic philosophers from trying.

True

It's encouraged

Well I like seeing theologicians try

I just cant see it being done