Message from @leavethisbotnet

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2018-08-10 21:06:29 UTC  

Ban "donations". It's obvious corruption and everyone knows it, but everyone with enough power to change it is already corrupt. Politicians shouldn't be allowed to accept money from anybody for any reason.

2018-08-10 21:07:54 UTC  

Politicians shouldn't be allowed to vote on issues where there's a conflict of interest just like a jury

2018-08-10 21:12:03 UTC  

Lol they are elected to vote on things

2018-08-10 21:12:13 UTC  

Thats literally how the system works

2018-08-10 21:12:34 UTC  

He lives in this planet. Conflict of interest

2018-08-10 21:15:40 UTC  

Politicians are elected *because* of their interests

2018-08-10 21:16:20 UTC  

If he had no side in the topic at hand, why would people elect him in the first place?

2018-08-10 21:17:02 UTC  

Nah, small-ish donations from individuals are OK. Anything other than that should be banned.

2018-08-10 21:17:19 UTC  

I can get behind that

2018-08-10 21:17:57 UTC  

Though I think the US is particularly bad in this regard.

2018-08-10 21:19:22 UTC  

Regardless of what you think about Clinton, she was obviously still a part of her foundation and probably used it's expense account for personal reasons. I don't see how that's not illegal

2018-08-10 21:19:25 UTC  

Individuals rarely are the ones donating it is almost exclusively corporations and foreign states

2018-08-10 21:20:08 UTC  

@Fitzydog because its a charity which is given a high degree of privacy, making it easier to funnel money into re-election campaigns.

2018-08-10 21:20:50 UTC  

@radeon I know how, I'm just asking why was she allowed to still be on their board/payroll. Trump can't do HIS business while in office, why was she?

2018-08-10 21:21:16 UTC  

Because it's "non profit"?

2018-08-10 21:22:34 UTC  

If you check the Wikipedia page on Wages in Europe Turkey has almost reached Moldovan wages...

2018-08-10 21:23:14 UTC  

I would understand that reference if I could point out Moldova on a map...

2018-08-10 21:24:57 UTC  

Lol this was decided by the supream court a long time ago

2018-08-10 21:25:04 UTC  

Donations are free speech

2018-08-10 21:25:14 UTC  

Even by corperations

2018-08-10 21:25:27 UTC  

Which is bullshit

2018-08-10 21:25:31 UTC  

How

2018-08-10 21:25:41 UTC  

Ahh, but what wasn't decided was whether politicians can be limited in what they can *accept*

2018-08-10 21:26:01 UTC  

Capital doesn't have voting rights, people do.

2018-08-10 21:26:05 UTC  

What do you think is worth more?

2018-08-10 21:26:17 UTC  

The time spent of the media talking about you?

2018-08-10 21:26:23 UTC  

Or hard cash?

2018-08-10 21:26:42 UTC  

Time spent

2018-08-10 21:26:42 UTC  

Should we restrict the Young Turks for supporting bernie

2018-08-10 21:27:01 UTC  

Because that is worth more to him than cold hard cash

2018-08-10 21:27:23 UTC  

Should we put a restriction on how much the media talks about politicians?

2018-08-10 21:27:43 UTC  

Just because it can't be dealt with perfectly doesn't mean it should be left alone.

2018-08-10 21:27:53 UTC  

Where does it end?

2018-08-10 21:28:05 UTC  

You can't limit people's speech. But you can limit what federal employees do

2018-08-10 21:28:09 UTC  

It ends with politicians.

2018-08-10 21:28:27 UTC  

Once you start restricting what people can donate too

2018-08-10 21:28:40 UTC  

Can i not give money to the NRA?

2018-08-10 21:29:01 UTC  

Is the NRA a politician?

2018-08-10 21:29:07 UTC  

Corporations aren't people

2018-08-10 21:29:12 UTC  

They support politicians

2018-08-10 21:29:26 UTC  

this wouldn't restrict people giving donations, it would restrict corps.