Yep, the Spanish civil war (mostly anarchists vs facists with communists helping anarchists) showed a state with an organised territory is superior to a group of effective guerrillas , the anarchists had no tanks or ability to produce them etc

No I'm a leftcom,

So, what is the closest that anyone has come to creating your ideal state?

@Farseer Selna Vesha Their first problem was going to war

That was probably inevitable

@Farseer Selna Vesha I think I got something for you

Seeing as fascist states don’t like dissnt

we need a libertarian fascist state

@franti oh god, not the memereich

@Mickey D Anarcho-Monarchy now!

Mine? No one really, Lenin and the bolsheviks fucked up a lot i.e starting a revolution in a feudal society with a feudal mode of production before Russia had adopted industrial capitalism/had a Bourg revolution

Mao repeated this in china

Yeah, that ended up to a lot of people dying, from what I understand

egoist monarchy

Turns out suddenly taking all of your farmers and putting them in factories ends up with less food

Well they had to basically industrialise directly , especially to compete with the west, Lenin in part compensated for this by his NEP project

Which was essentiallly in his own words a state directed capitalism

Or in the case of Ukraine, as I understand it, rounding up all of the good farmers and throwing them into gulags for being too productive

To build Russian industry

I also like how he had gone from anarchism to having managers and a hiearchy in the factories

You also had awards for the most productive workers

Judging from where all of these revolutions happened, Marx was probably a more convincing critic of feudalism in the minds of many

Grain collectivisation was a big part of stalin reversing the NEP by Lenin

I honestly feel a lot better with people who think #LeninDinduNuffin than #StalinDinduNuffin

Well, Marxism fundamentally is the argument that capitalism is unsustainable, we support capitalism over feudalism,

where's our resident commie loving conservative?

And is the prediction that socialism would evolve out of capitalism

Well, in the aspect that “capitalism would eventually remove the necessity for its existence” then sure

As the next economic stage, communists are the actual ideology

Basically, if UBI happens we could end up with Luxury Gay Space Capitalism

gay luxury space communism

is the future

Leftcoms are very orthodox Marxists

We believe revolution will happen when it happens

I.e when capitalism literally falls under its own weight and contradictions

I’d imagine things would have to be a lot worse than they are now

Like the christians who believe the end times will happen when it happens