Ask a social anarchist , I don't have any problems with hierarchy or a state (yes communism is stateless but a state to a communist means the apparatus for the ruling class to express their power, for all intents and purposes we still would have a state in the regular meaning of the term)

Hierarchy’s are an inevitable part of us not all being clones of a flawless human

@Farseer Selna Vesha AnCaps would agree with that. To them 'Anarchy' mean 'Without state'

AnCaps forget, however, that the corporations would essentially become the state

All anarchy is, is youthful screeching, they can't answer your questions

@Puma If you'd have been paying attention, I already stated that further up

Yup

Well that @Puma I agree, but also hierarchy is super useful, a lot of political problems and complexities arrise if hierarchy is abolished

That and some people are just good at leading

Anarchists have a lot of coherency problems

@Farseer Selna Vesha We can go the JBP route and say hierarchy is part of the huamn experience an ingraned into us

@Farseer Selna Vesha lol have you seen AnCap memes? They're usually just a wall of text.

Also, any Anarchist “State” (I use state as means of describing an area that is under anarchism) can easily be steamrolled by any state with a coherent plan

@Puma Ahh, but why would you want to?

I haven't met an anarchist who explained to me how they will deal with a canton (the anarchist equivalent of territory/state) will deal with one that disagrees with them on fundamental issues like what is the nature of hierarch

Because, only I should have recreational nukes

Stop opressing me you damn commie

They use communes and cantons @Puma to refer to regions

Under their comtrol

That works

But yeah

Any commune would get streamrolled by a coherent force

@Farseer Selna Vesha Where people see anarchy they also see an oportunity to subjugate

See *the result of most anarchy*

See the Paris commune

Catalonia

Weimar Germany, perhaps

Free theritory

@Farseer Selna Vesha please tell me that you aren’t a Tankie

Yep, the Spanish civil war (mostly anarchists vs facists with communists helping anarchists) showed a state with an organised territory is superior to a group of effective guerrillas , the anarchists had no tanks or ability to produce them etc

No I'm a leftcom,

So, what is the closest that anyone has come to creating your ideal state?

@Farseer Selna Vesha Their first problem was going to war

That was probably inevitable

@Farseer Selna Vesha I think I got something for you