Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha
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With no laws against slavery , I would expect those in poverty to end up selling themselves into such condition "voluntarily"
The old social vs classical liberal split
Some people are citizens of 'All-state', some are citizens of 'Geico', but they're neighbors.
Depends how the 'owners' are contracted and if they are allowed to do such.
*buts thats illegal under the NAPs REEEEE*
@Puma NUKES VIOLATE THE NAP
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How is it, the proposed slave owner didn't violently coerce them into slavery , they made a "mutually beneficial trade" otherwise the trade wouldn't have occurred t.ancap
NAPs are like Anarcho-Communism, if nobody is around to enforce the NAP/preventing of capitalism, does jt really exist?
Really, the only way to exploit the 'loopholes' in AnCapistan, would be if you were like a Rockefeller and owned a vertically integrated company that had complete control over your entire life
True anarchists are an interesting bunch, ancaps aren't really anarchists because they literally have nothing to do with classical libertarian theory
Ancaps are ok with hierarchy, which is literally the one thing all anarchists agree is bad
Somewhere, at some time, you're going to be signing a contract with someone else, and that will probably have stipulations that look and sound like the oft-cited 'NAP'
@Farseer Selna Vesha here are some woke takes I think you will enjoy
(Though anarchists have their own definition of hierarchy that's different from the contemporary definition, which is how they can justify leaders)
The best part about dealing with this guy is that he was doing it solely on principle
Of stupidity of course
@Farseer Selna Vesha Seriously, how do you operate in the world without signing contracts or being beholden to another person or group? Everyone is.
Never once did he ask “how did you obtain these nukes”, he just said “oh well that violates the NAP”
Ask a social anarchist , I don't have any problems with hierarchy or a state (yes communism is stateless but a state to a communist means the apparatus for the ruling class to express their power, for all intents and purposes we still would have a state in the regular meaning of the term)
Hierarchy’s are an inevitable part of us not all being clones of a flawless human
@Farseer Selna Vesha AnCaps would agree with that. To them 'Anarchy' mean 'Without state'
AnCaps forget, however, that the corporations would essentially become the state
All anarchy is, is youthful screeching, they can't answer your questions
@Puma If you'd have been paying attention, I already stated that further up
Yup
Well that @Puma I agree, but also hierarchy is super useful, a lot of political problems and complexities arrise if hierarchy is abolished
That and some people are just good at leading
Anarchists have a lot of coherency problems
@Farseer Selna Vesha We can go the JBP route and say hierarchy is part of the huamn experience an ingraned into us
@Farseer Selna Vesha lol have you seen AnCap memes? They're usually just a wall of text.
Also, any Anarchist “State” (I use state as means of describing an area that is under anarchism) can easily be steamrolled by any state with a coherent plan
I haven't met an anarchist who explained to me how they will deal with a canton (the anarchist equivalent of territory/state) will deal with one that disagrees with them on fundamental issues like what is the nature of hierarch
Because, only I should have recreational nukes
Stop opressing me you damn commie
They use communes and cantons @Puma to refer to regions
Under their comtrol