Message from @Great Cait

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2018-08-27 22:34:00 UTC  

But why is it that trans people are the only ones for whom chromosomes are the sole determining factor of social gender?

2018-08-27 22:34:21 UTC  

Though a bit rare, there are people with abnormal chromosomes.

2018-08-27 22:34:35 UTC  

Sometimes, babies are born intersex.

2018-08-27 22:34:52 UTC  

Sometimes, babies are born with XY chromosomes, but a female phenotype.

2018-08-27 22:34:54 UTC  

Etc.

2018-08-27 22:35:32 UTC  

Hermaphroditism is caused by chromosomal abnormalities such as XYY so it actually is related to chromosomes

2018-08-27 22:35:34 UTC  

Again, just playing devil's advocate here.

2018-08-27 22:35:42 UTC  

But you're wrong though

2018-08-27 22:36:00 UTC  

exceptions don't make rules

2018-08-27 22:36:22 UTC  

They're not exceptions, it's still dictated by chromosomes

2018-08-27 22:36:41 UTC  

XYY or XXX or XXY is incredibly rare

2018-08-27 22:36:43 UTC  

But it happens

2018-08-27 22:37:08 UTC  

People are born with those chromosomes.

2018-08-27 22:37:40 UTC  

Maybe it's just a lack of awareness.

2018-08-27 22:37:49 UTC  

Precisely, that means that their gender is determined by those chromosomes.

2018-08-27 22:37:53 UTC  

How to treat strippers 🤔

2018-08-27 22:37:54 UTC  

Belief has nothing to do with it

2018-08-27 22:38:08 UTC  

How about have some self respect and dont go to a strip club

2018-08-27 22:38:09 UTC  

If I say I am a walrus that does not change the fact that I am still a human

2018-08-27 22:38:14 UTC  

Same goes for gender

2018-08-27 22:38:27 UTC  

But I've never seen people look at those people with abnormal chromosomes and deny that they're the gender they were raised as.

2018-08-27 22:38:35 UTC  

That's wrong

2018-08-27 22:38:47 UTC  

They actually are hermaphrodites

2018-08-27 22:38:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/483767406070595584/98f.png

2018-08-27 22:39:09 UTC  

There are 5 main determiners of sex
Brain chemistry
Chromosomes
Primary sex charachteristics
Secondary sex charachteristics
Hormones levels

There are conditions that cause abmormailities in all of them. It would take a retard to state that all abnormalities are a different sex.

2018-08-27 22:39:15 UTC  

If I recall correctly.

2018-08-27 22:39:31 UTC  

The medical definition of hermaphroditism has more to do with reproduction than chromosomes.

2018-08-27 22:39:33 UTC  

It stands to reason that sex be a combination of the 5 determiners

2018-08-27 22:39:47 UTC  

Most hermaphrodites are sterile

2018-08-27 22:40:04 UTC  

@Great Cait The most common examples of hermaphroditism are due to chromosomal abnormalities

2018-08-27 22:40:20 UTC  

Regardless it doesn't change the fact that belief does not effect reality

2018-08-27 22:40:30 UTC  

If you think something that does not mean it is true

2018-08-27 22:40:32 UTC  

But at the end of the day if you arent convinced by any of it you could just not be a dick about it

2018-08-27 22:40:51 UTC  

the exception does not prove the non-rule

2018-08-27 22:40:53 UTC  

"In biology, a hermaphrodite (/hɜːrˈmæfrədaɪt/) is an organism that has complete or partial reproductive organs and produces gametes normally associated with both male and female sexes.[1] Many taxonomic groups of animals (mostly invertebrates) do not have separate sexes.[2] In these groups, hermaphroditism is a normal condition, enabling a form of sexual reproduction in which either partner can act as the "female" or "male". For example, the great majority of tunicates, pulmonate snails, opisthobranch snails and slugs are hermaphrodites. Hermaphroditism is also found in some fish species and to a lesser degree in other vertebrates. Most plants are also hermaphrodites."

2018-08-27 22:41:00 UTC  

I pulled that from Wikipedia.

2018-08-27 22:41:10 UTC  

Not in humans

2018-08-27 22:41:13 UTC  

But yeah, it seems to be mainly about reproduction.

2018-08-27 22:41:15 UTC  

Jesus

2018-08-27 22:41:27 UTC  

And reproductive organs.

2018-08-27 22:41:30 UTC  

In humans it has to do with having both sexual organs