Kursk was, like, 16RU v 12GE

Germans get Nashorn but no Tiger or Panther

Despite the P4 being able to cleave everything that the Russians have on that map anyway

Russians get the SU-122 which didn't see service till around Jan 1944, but no SU-152 which actually saw service at Kursk

SU-122 is two spawns in SB, SU-152 is single spawn

Also because the game is set up for isolated events that people can't just join or leave, people are allowed to both fly and tank

And since Russians have a +4 player advantage

Isn't the 152 better than the 122?

122 is based on T-34/85 chassis

So it's very nimble and has a 5 speed box

152 has the bigger boom

But based on KV-1 chassis

So kinda clumsy

ohh

and, in SB, 152 only has single spawn

speedy boi or slugger boi

So it would actually be more balanced if the SU-122 had been removed and the SU-152, which *actually was at Kursk*, been inserted

Also RU usually has air superiority because of the +4 player advantage, unless Germans give up having parity of numbers on the ground in order to combat it

And instead of it being a battle map, it was a domination map

so just cap and camp?

So the nashorn, a thin-skinned unturreted tank destroyer has all of it's advantages taken away

And the Russian 37mm cannon in the Yak and the IL-2-37 can mash through the armour of both the P4 and the Nash

regular 23mm on regular IL-2 can also smash the Nashorn, too

Germans either needed access to at least something like the Tiger, even if it meant a further reduction in player numbers for their size

Or better player number parity

but doesn't the nashorn have paper armor anyway?

Also when you skew player numbers for one team, it fucks the queue times

Because more people are queueing for less spots on one side

yeah, nash has no armour

like 12.7 can tear it up?

hence the 23mm cannon is more than enough, don't need the HVAP from the 37mm

but the HVAP 37mm can pen the top, rear and sides of the PzIV

at least it stops 7.62mm

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but when you're that tier, what even has mgs that small?

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But then every US tank comes along with a complimentary side-order of 19 .50cal MGs

M18s and Nashorns are my favourite for when I'm flying

M18s more of a PITA though since it's so speedy and still has a fucking .50cal

That seems to be able to fire straight up into the goddamn air