so long boooooiiiii

The "shit" SA should have waded through was the millions of illegal immigrants from the north who invaded the country and declared themselves the rightful owners of the land that these people have owned for 400 years

My principle of morality more or less is "Try to do good and let people do what they want to do as long as it is not a problem to others."

Positive net sum games for all more or less.

Well you sure as hell don't show it

Oh?

@Omsomething people should learn to take care of themselves good care if they become negative they will make everyone more miserable

SA chose to let those people in, it was their choise. They can also expel them id they wish to do so.

Also that is true Hannibal, but i do not think all people in position of power want people to learn how to care of themselves.

So remove them from power.

goodnight gentleman and maybe some whamen

probably only men.

Yes

That IS the point, Taxes to form unified government which takes care of its own is self-reliance on national scale. You form society which allows people to grow as far as they can or want to go.

@Omsomething So why do you want me to pay for the failings of another?

If you do not want to bear the communal burdens of your country you are free to move to some other nation to do as you please.

And some people fail from multidute of reasons, and getting them back to action is paramount to health of society. Some WILL get lost to social welfare but ALL SYSTEMS will be exploited by some people.

If you push them to be too strict then they systems fail to provide their benefits to society as whole.

@Omsomething Then keep that shit in Finland, and don't criticize the US when we choose to not do as you do.

Seems like a lot of people from US want to adopt the system, but that IS a debate you can have in peace. And i am certain people from US would NEVER comment on internal affairs of other countries.

I literally cannot name a single state where it *hasn't* failed

Could be i am biased by fake news but person from US asking people do not to criticize their internal politics is endlessly amusing to me due to how often they want to meddle in affairs of others.

Most of us want that shit to stop as well. It's a fucking tax burden

Thank God McCain is dead now

The guy was a bigger war hawk than Bush Jr.

Well hopefully it will happen, but could be US simply cannot do that. If it becomes too weak then a lot of things will come back to bite it. But anyway.

> exiting Afghanistan
> becoming weak as a result

wth?

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I mean globally, if US for example torpedoes NATO too much Europeans start going their own way more and US cannot push its policies and enforcement options which benefit its industries and global power reach.

Good

Let them sleep in their own migrant infested bed lol

get our troops out of Germany

>US makes middle east utter shit fest
>Decides it needs to pull back
>People escape to Europe of mess US made
>US goes "Oh well you made your bed!"

Europa did not destabilize the region.

Build a damn wall

You fucks are piloting boats and encouraging people to cross the Mediterranean

Well, luckily Finland has been spared most of the problems thanks to our good governance and strict enforcement of rules.

You think Europe isn't involved in the Middle East?

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Europa is involved there only because US got involved there. There might have been some involvement but it would have been a lot more scalpel as against of US hammer.

It’s almost like the migrants are going to countries that don’t enforce their rules 🤔
To countries that give out the most welfare benefits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force

Pretty much all of NATO is there

*By choice.*