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2018-09-15 14:27:26 UTC  
2018-09-15 14:27:30 UTC  

better?

2018-09-15 14:28:22 UTC  

Popper was talking about people actively subverting liberal democracy

2018-09-15 14:29:55 UTC  

Who defines liberal democracy?

2018-09-15 14:36:19 UTC  

It has clear political science definition

2018-09-15 14:42:09 UTC  

watch this

2018-09-15 14:48:12 UTC  

Thoughts on this discussion about Kaepernick on Mock The Week, anyone?: https://youtu.be/5VPUDQ3MnY0?t=20m7s

2018-09-15 15:03:35 UTC  

I dont believe it does

2018-09-15 15:03:53 UTC  

was the beginning of the united states a liberal democracy?

2018-09-15 15:04:43 UTC  

🤔

2018-09-15 15:04:54 UTC  

Three years of Undertale

2018-09-15 15:04:57 UTC  

time flies I guess

2018-09-15 15:05:26 UTC  

Also the way most liberalists use it now, include very anti traditional takes on classical liberalism

2018-09-15 15:06:03 UTC  

to the point where it is used to defend social democracy instead

2018-09-15 15:21:36 UTC  

Most Liberalists advocate for social democracy?

2018-09-15 15:22:50 UTC  

when i was active in the server

2018-09-15 15:23:03 UTC  

thats pretty much what the conversations turned into

2018-09-15 15:23:19 UTC  

and rejecting Republicanism of the Federalists

2018-09-15 15:23:40 UTC  

Muh "our Democracy"

2018-09-15 15:27:44 UTC  

It's not like Plato had some things to say about it a couple thousand years ago...

2018-09-15 15:27:44 UTC  

Didnt the anti-federalist win the argument in the end in the US?

2018-09-15 15:27:54 UTC  

no

2018-09-15 15:28:00 UTC  

it was a compromise

2018-09-15 15:28:11 UTC  

The US became federalized

2018-09-15 15:28:19 UTC  

but we got a bill of rights with it

2018-09-15 15:29:05 UTC  

Yea the us is a mixture of federalism and anti federalism

2018-09-15 15:29:17 UTC  

Slowly however the anti-federalists are getting their wish though

2018-09-15 15:29:40 UTC  

how so?

2018-09-15 15:30:01 UTC  

The slow creep of federal power and centralization

2018-09-15 15:30:25 UTC  

didnt you mean the federalists?

2018-09-15 15:30:32 UTC  

Federal power is federalist

2018-09-15 15:30:58 UTC  

Federalist
1. relating to or denoting a system of government in which several states unite under a central authority.

2018-09-15 15:31:48 UTC  

I would argue most of the admendments and article 5 are all anti federalist. Cause it puts the people or the states above the federal.

2018-09-15 15:32:53 UTC  

They were more confederationists

2018-09-15 15:32:53 UTC  

Yes, sorry. Got them backwards. I colloquially just say 'centralized' vs 'decentralized' instead of referring to federalism

2018-09-15 15:33:13 UTC  

than anti-federalists

2018-09-15 15:33:27 UTC  

fair enough

2018-09-15 15:46:29 UTC  

just watched that, actually laughed my ass off at her fucking tantrum