Well when your goal isn't profit but sterilisation it's a bit different

@Fitzydog don’t you know , economics is basically holy water for the gypsy?

I literally know of *one* monopoly that was actually successful, and that was the Standard Oil Company. But it was vertically integrated as well, so not really a good comparison to Nationalized industries or single industry monopolies

It was kind of like Amazon today, tbh. Each 'sector' was its own successful venture, bringing in revenue, subsidized by its sister ventures.

@Fitzydog the old monopolies were all highly succesful because of the pure amount they were able to do. problem was they were severe abuses of power and corrupted so much shit
being so large that the owner was still richer than jeff Bezos is right now is not a good thing
so rich that only the mansa musa and potentially Vladimir Putin are wealthier than you

Well, "corruption" is a loose word, seeing as there weren't any regulations they were subverting at the time

And thus the classical liberal becomes a beautiful ~~~butterfly~~~ social democrat

@Deleted User I never claimed to be one
I said I was a social liberal

Imagine my shock

And that was just a meme from before

I'm a classical liberal

Change My Mind

#NotTrueLiberalism

Here's a nice comparison

@Deleted User @Fitzydog HR 676 is not socialized medicine, but rather, a nationalized healthcare insurance system, something Progressives have been advocating for over 100 years. See, for example, the Progressive Party platform of 1912, as well as the Progressive Party platform of 1948. And what do we get from the Democrats? Incrementalism, their euphemism for what they used to call gradualism, until Martin Luther King pointed out that it is nothing but a tranquilizing drug. How much more incremental or gradual do they want it to be, when the idea is over an hundred years old? Anyway, medical professionals have supported this bill, which defies the claim that they won't be getting paid, that they will be slaves of the government, or some other shit like that which right-wingers have spewed in their opposition to this idea, because they believe it is socialized medicine, having not taken the time to read the bill.

It's Progressive, Liberal, Conservative

Change my mind

> not socialized medicine, but rather, a nationalized healthcare insurance system

lol wut

Assuming you earned £50k a year, and you go out and buy your pal a pint for £4, you wouldn't even think about would you? 6 pints later and you still would be happy paying.

Conservatives have never said they won't get paid. Hell, it's the opposite tbh

On that scale (using Bezos' net worth which is flawed but for illustration) for Jeff each pint would cost £13.2 million

They'll be gov't workers. Practically takes an act of congress to get one of them fired

The "progressive" party

The party that trades gibs for votes

I'm still trying to understand how nationalized health insurance is not also socialized medicine

The top and the bottom of society ruling over the middle

So the gov't contracts the labor out. Is that the only difference?

Its all just the degneration of a society

You get to manage things

You get money from the insurance

"Central planning"

I get gibs?

Did someone say gibs

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I get monies from insurance. Where does insurance get monies?

also it was corruption
no regulations doesnt mean its not corruption
laws allowing slavery doesnt mean it wasnt slavery

congressmen upon finishing their term that go to work at companies they passed laws to help that business is corruption
despite no law stopping it

This is starting to sound like Obamacare

a congressmen running a "charity" and putting their family members or themselves on the board and given huge pay due to corporations "donating" to it is corruption

Yes, I would agree.

I don't see how that has anything to do with socialized medicine though lol