Message from @DiscordantFool
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HR 676 would give the National Expanded and Improved Medicare for All regional boards of governors (medical professionals) the authority to negotiate prices with pharmaceutical companies. HR 676 was drafted after consultation with medical professionals. Medical professionals support HR 676, as do many business leaders, because they don't want to have to continue to finance their employees' healthcare insurance with private, for-profit insurance companies.
No one said "medical professionals" were good at business lol
We should Nationalize the drug manufacturers and lace the export products to sterilize the rest of the world
Oh, you mean a state subsidized monopoly?
For the sterilization of the undeserving, yes
*So efficient.*
Well when your goal isn't profit but sterilisation it's a bit different
@Fitzydog donβt you know , economics is basically holy water for the gypsy?
I literally know of *one* monopoly that was actually successful, and that was the Standard Oil Company. But it was vertically integrated as well, so not really a good comparison to Nationalized industries or single industry monopolies
It was kind of like Amazon today, tbh. Each 'sector' was its own successful venture, bringing in revenue, subsidized by its sister ventures.
@Fitzydog the old monopolies were all highly succesful because of the pure amount they were able to do. problem was they were severe abuses of power and corrupted so much shit
being so large that the owner was still richer than jeff Bezos is right now is not a good thing
so rich that only the mansa musa and potentially Vladimir Putin are wealthier than you
Well, "corruption" is a loose word, seeing as there weren't any regulations they were subverting at the time
And thus the classical liberal becomes a beautiful ~~~butterfly~~~ social democrat
@Deleted User I never claimed to be one
I said I was a social liberal
Imagine my shock
And that was just a meme from before
I'm a classical liberal
Change My Mind
#NotTrueLiberalism
@Deleted User @Fitzydog HR 676 is not socialized medicine, but rather, a nationalized healthcare insurance system, something Progressives have been advocating for over 100 years. See, for example, the Progressive Party platform of 1912, as well as the Progressive Party platform of 1948. And what do we get from the Democrats? Incrementalism, their euphemism for what they used to call gradualism, until Martin Luther King pointed out that it is nothing but a tranquilizing drug. How much more incremental or gradual do they want it to be, when the idea is over an hundred years old? Anyway, medical professionals have supported this bill, which defies the claim that they won't be getting paid, that they will be slaves of the government, or some other shit like that which right-wingers have spewed in their opposition to this idea, because they believe it is socialized medicine, having not taken the time to read the bill.
It's Progressive, Liberal, Conservative
Change my mind
> not socialized medicine, but rather, a nationalized healthcare insurance system
lol wut
Assuming you earned Β£50k a year, and you go out and buy your pal a pint for Β£4, you wouldn't even think about would you? 6 pints later and you still would be happy paying.
Conservatives have never said they won't get paid. Hell, it's the opposite tbh
On that scale (using Bezos' net worth which is flawed but for illustration) for Jeff each pint would cost Β£13.2 million
They'll be gov't workers. Practically takes an act of congress to get one of them fired
The "progressive" party
The party that trades gibs for votes
I'm still trying to understand how nationalized health insurance is not also socialized medicine
The top and the bottom of society ruling over the middle
So the gov't contracts the labor out. Is that the only difference?
Its all just the degneration of a society
You get to manage things
You get money from the insurance
"Central planning"
I get gibs?
Did someone say gibs
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