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what was the argument against slavery
What was the argument FOR it?
Industry
it was accepted by all societies across all mankind
One doesn't find objections to slavery in scripture
Lol
Check again
yet it was the christians who were the abolitionists
There are direct references for God and Jesus condoning slavery
I have read the bible from cover to cover, twice. And I still read it now and then
certain sects
The New Testament is pretty progressive on slavery
Jesus told slaves to obey their masters
Christians were indeed abolitionists. Eventually. Because they were Christian? If that were so they'd not have endorsed it for as long as they did. The British ended slavery. Not Christianity. British society.
Show me where secular humanism made the argument first
If everyone actually read the entire Bible there would be a lot fewer Christians
you said it was against religion progress moved
It does, where is the anti slavery in the scripture?
yet it was the religious Quakers who started the abolitionist movement
I do not need scripture alone
People who had enough money and power to not need slaves to support their business were the only ones safe to criticize slavery and were the first abolitionists. That's my interpretation, at least.
we have the religious traditions
The apostolic faith
The bible endorses slavery throughout. Therefore it is religiously condoned. If the abolitionists were motivated from their beliefs they didn't get that moral decision from their religious scripture but through a process of reason.
Deciding that all men were equal
The Bible also openly advocates for murder as a form of punishment for unruly children I think slavery is among the least heinous things 'god' condones
Yeah
I dunno, it's up there
Again your claim that secular humanism moved society forward against religion
you have done nothing to back it up
God definitely gets points in my book for dropping an orbital strike on Sodom and Gomorrah.
Name a culture in the past that *didn't* have slavery.
Pro tip
you cant
No I said that moral progress moved against religion, and that secular humanism has civilised the west. Secular humanism is a result of that pushing against religion for centuries
until the quackers
It's really hard to prove one way or another