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2018-09-19 01:23:12 UTC  

what was the argument against slavery

2018-09-19 01:23:21 UTC  

@Roarey fite me

2018-09-19 01:23:30 UTC  

What was the argument FOR it?

2018-09-19 01:23:41 UTC  

Industry

2018-09-19 01:23:55 UTC  

it was accepted by all societies across all mankind

2018-09-19 01:24:02 UTC  

One doesn't find objections to slavery in scripture

2018-09-19 01:24:06 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-19 01:24:19 UTC  

Check again

2018-09-19 01:24:20 UTC  

yet it was the christians who were the abolitionists

2018-09-19 01:24:27 UTC  

There are direct references for God and Jesus condoning slavery

2018-09-19 01:24:28 UTC  

I have read the bible from cover to cover, twice. And I still read it now and then

2018-09-19 01:24:34 UTC  

certain sects

2018-09-19 01:24:38 UTC  

The New Testament is pretty progressive on slavery

2018-09-19 01:24:57 UTC  

Jesus told slaves to obey their masters

2018-09-19 01:25:31 UTC  

Christians were indeed abolitionists. Eventually. Because they were Christian? If that were so they'd not have endorsed it for as long as they did. The British ended slavery. Not Christianity. British society.

2018-09-19 01:25:33 UTC  

Show me where secular humanism made the argument first

2018-09-19 01:25:43 UTC  

If everyone actually read the entire Bible there would be a lot fewer Christians

2018-09-19 01:25:47 UTC  

you said it was against religion progress moved

2018-09-19 01:26:10 UTC  

It does, where is the anti slavery in the scripture?

2018-09-19 01:26:18 UTC  

yet it was the religious Quakers who started the abolitionist movement

2018-09-19 01:26:22 UTC  

and the catholics

2018-09-19 01:26:31 UTC  

I do not need scripture alone

2018-09-19 01:26:47 UTC  

People who had enough money and power to not need slaves to support their business were the only ones safe to criticize slavery and were the first abolitionists. That's my interpretation, at least.

2018-09-19 01:26:49 UTC  

we have the religious traditions

2018-09-19 01:27:07 UTC  

The apostolic faith

2018-09-19 01:27:21 UTC  

The bible endorses slavery throughout. Therefore it is religiously condoned. If the abolitionists were motivated from their beliefs they didn't get that moral decision from their religious scripture but through a process of reason.

2018-09-19 01:27:41 UTC  

Deciding that all men were equal

2018-09-19 01:27:43 UTC  

The Bible also openly advocates for murder as a form of punishment for unruly children I think slavery is among the least heinous things 'god' condones

2018-09-19 01:27:44 UTC  

@Roarey Did you read it in chonological order?

2018-09-19 01:27:55 UTC  

Yeah

2018-09-19 01:27:56 UTC  

I dunno, it's up there

2018-09-19 01:28:17 UTC  

Again your claim that secular humanism moved society forward against religion

2018-09-19 01:28:23 UTC  

you have done nothing to back it up

2018-09-19 01:28:25 UTC  

@M4Gunner unless you're white <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2018-09-19 01:28:38 UTC  

God definitely gets points in my book for dropping an orbital strike on Sodom and Gomorrah.

2018-09-19 01:28:53 UTC  

Name a culture in the past that *didn't* have slavery.

2018-09-19 01:28:59 UTC  

Pro tip

2018-09-19 01:29:01 UTC  

you cant

2018-09-19 01:29:05 UTC  

No I said that moral progress moved against religion, and that secular humanism has civilised the west. Secular humanism is a result of that pushing against religion for centuries

2018-09-19 01:29:06 UTC  

until the quackers

2018-09-19 01:29:13 UTC  

It's really hard to prove one way or another