Message from @Fitzydog
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haha
i haven't!
Thing is, if the US brings in outside authority to quell insurrection, all the perceived authority they once had goes out the window
It will be adding gas to a fire
its business as usual for prosecuting a war
so
yeah, the nation will die
i dont doubt that
You're forgetting that the military isn't a faceless organization that operates as a single fist
they'll be the ones to kill it
well i did say that there would be splint elements
but the internationals would demand to speak to the legitimate 'united states' so that they would be able to contribute to efforts to restore their form of order
civil wars are often a time to exploit other countries... especailly when it's a hegemon collapsing
Yeah, but with your point about NATO allies.
I think that's a very important aspect you're moving past without looking at its implications
sure, elaborate, ill listen
there's a lot of rich interest in seeing that the united states world order continues, i believe
but there's plenty against that too
i think the world order will collapse, but the international interests of NATO might work the hardest to restore order, because they likely have nothing to lose
i don't know, maybe the EU would ally with NATO in that regard
Just the *idea* that outside forces would be brought in would be like a giant red flag about the legitimate authority of the Fed to a lot of citizens and military alike.
It would destabilize what was left, and force the hand of the citizenry to establish an interim grass-roots US gov't replacement that quite a few US troops would probably pledge allegiance to
i dont see the population giving a united front thoguh
If they do some shit like bring in French troops to shoot Americans?
You're damn right they would
i just see a lot of power struggle
well towns might unite
but the country at large? do you think populations would be able to form a militia nation-wide comm system?
I'd see multiple states organizing into coalitions
one that's public and protected from sabotage
Iirc, didn’t they figure out that the US military would have something insane like 86% defect rate in the event of a revolution?
@What Would Jack Conte Do? lol dude, we already *have one*
one that has comm security, so no intel leaks out
We've had this stuff established for 40 years
sigh, do you think a united front will capture it in the first month of war?
lol no
so it'll probably be sabotaged then
Doubtful
well when the US military splits up as a result of ethno-nationalist/internationalist tension
and tension from people that just aren't ethnonationalist anyway
do you think that line of comm will be secure
You know that the US asks for assitance from amateur radio operators during natural disasters, right?
It's a better network