Yes, I'm aware. I've been to a few myself 😂

haha

i haven't!

Thing is, if the US brings in outside authority to quell insurrection, all the perceived authority they once had goes out the window

It will be adding gas to a fire

its business as usual for prosecuting a war

so

yeah, the nation will die

i dont doubt that

You're forgetting that the military isn't a faceless organization that operates as a single fist

they'll be the ones to kill it

well i did say that there would be splint elements

but the internationals would demand to speak to the legitimate 'united states' so that they would be able to contribute to efforts to restore their form of order

civil wars are often a time to exploit other countries... especailly when it's a hegemon collapsing

Yeah, but with your point about NATO allies.

I think that's a very important aspect you're moving past without looking at its implications

sure, elaborate, ill listen

there's a lot of rich interest in seeing that the united states world order continues, i believe

but there's plenty against that too

i think the world order will collapse, but the international interests of NATO might work the hardest to restore order, because they likely have nothing to lose

i don't know, maybe the EU would ally with NATO in that regard

Just the *idea* that outside forces would be brought in would be like a giant red flag about the legitimate authority of the Fed to a lot of citizens and military alike.

It would destabilize what was left, and force the hand of the citizenry to establish an interim grass-roots US gov't replacement that quite a few US troops would probably pledge allegiance to

Like, overnight

i dont see the population giving a united front thoguh

If they do some shit like bring in French troops to shoot Americans?

You're damn right they would

i just see a lot of power struggle

well towns might unite

but the country at large? do you think populations would be able to form a militia nation-wide comm system?

I'd see multiple states organizing into coalitions

one that's public and protected from sabotage

Iirc, didn’t they figure out that the US military would have something insane like 86% defect rate in the event of a revolution?

@What Would Jack Conte Do? lol dude, we already *have one*

one that has comm security, so no intel leaks out

We've had this stuff established for 40 years

sigh, do you think a united front will capture it in the first month of war?

lol no

so it'll probably be sabotaged then

Doubtful

well when the US military splits up as a result of ethno-nationalist/internationalist tension

and tension from people that just aren't ethnonationalist anyway

do you think that line of comm will be secure

You know that the US asks for assitance from amateur radio operators during natural disasters, right?