Do we?

I'm not arguing against that

@drydad no remove govt monopoly of force

Who should provide that safety net?

I think the ACA and healthcare regulations make the product far more expensive

Our current government isn’t to be trusted with certain issues, is that your guys issue? Or you just don’t want government intervention AT ALL?

or whats left of it

@drydad ZEE-RO

the last one

oof

@drydad all issues aside from protecting sovereign borders

That’s pretty libertarian

yes

lol no shit

Minarchist

@drydad I think it's hard to define but when i look at nationalist parties the common theme is rooted in collectivism. Maybe i'd define it as loyalty to the state surpass individual rights. (Britannica definition)

I mean, I don’t think the government should get involved with certain social issues

More economic

@drydad That's the same thing

Hmm, the government being involved in the economy just makes things worse for nearly everyone

Can I give an example?

You're going to anyways lol

The least responsible entity in this entire conversation is the govt when it comes to spending

I like using this as a good way to explain the governments intervention in the economy

You can only have 2 of these 3

And thats your choice

Cost can even decrease.

@Werlf How much was healthcare in the US before it was regulated?

Medicare, medicaid set market values for insurnace pay outs

@Fitzydog Don't know, it's been regulated since WW2

@M4Gunner you’re mistaking my argument. I think the government should get involved to help people who lose their jobs due to big businesses moving their countries to places like China. Or even Walmart not paying their workers a livable wage, firing those who join unions, they even encouraged employees to get food stamps at one point

@Werlf pride in your nation is a sentiment, I'd just call that patriotism and not nationalism

How?

@drydad what if i told you the only minimum wage should be 0.00$

@drydad You ever been to the DMV? lol

Nope

oh ok

nevermind then

Hahaha fine 0.01

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