She's the one who keeps coming back for more

Case in point, the government needs to do more for poor hard working Americans who can’t afford to pay their bills, struggle with healthcare, and don’t even have 1k in the bank

@drydad Why?

@drydad not they dont

I think the government needs to do less

Okay, so you think corporations making it harder for them isn’t an issue?

Are they?

If the government backs off, this just leads to more corruption

I agree with Tim Pool on the method. The Chinese fingertrap problem, often the solution is counterintuitive

We need a safety net.

@drydad false premise based on theory

Do we?

I'm not arguing against that

@drydad no remove govt monopoly of force

Who should provide that safety net?

I think the ACA and healthcare regulations make the product far more expensive

Our current government isn’t to be trusted with certain issues, is that your guys issue? Or you just don’t want government intervention AT ALL?

or whats left of it

@drydad ZEE-RO

the last one

oof

@drydad all issues aside from protecting sovereign borders

That’s pretty libertarian

yes

lol no shit

Minarchist

@drydad I think it's hard to define but when i look at nationalist parties the common theme is rooted in collectivism. Maybe i'd define it as loyalty to the state surpass individual rights. (Britannica definition)

I mean, I don’t think the government should get involved with certain social issues

More economic

@drydad That's the same thing

Hmm, the government being involved in the economy just makes things worse for nearly everyone

Can I give an example?

You're going to anyways lol

The least responsible entity in this entire conversation is the govt when it comes to spending

I like using this as a good way to explain the governments intervention in the economy

You can only have 2 of these 3

And thats your choice

Cost can even decrease.

@Werlf How much was healthcare in the US before it was regulated?

Medicare, medicaid set market values for insurnace pay outs