I mean, I don’t think the government should get involved with certain social issues

More economic

@drydad That's the same thing

Hmm, the government being involved in the economy just makes things worse for nearly everyone

Can I give an example?

You're going to anyways lol

The least responsible entity in this entire conversation is the govt when it comes to spending

I like using this as a good way to explain the governments intervention in the economy

You can only have 2 of these 3

And thats your choice

Cost can even decrease.

@Werlf How much was healthcare in the US before it was regulated?

Medicare, medicaid set market values for insurnace pay outs

@Fitzydog Don't know, it's been regulated since WW2

@M4Gunner you’re mistaking my argument. I think the government should get involved to help people who lose their jobs due to big businesses moving their countries to places like China. Or even Walmart not paying their workers a livable wage, firing those who join unions, they even encouraged employees to get food stamps at one point

@Werlf pride in your nation is a sentiment, I'd just call that patriotism and not nationalism

How?

@drydad what if i told you the only minimum wage should be 0.00$

@drydad You ever been to the DMV? lol

Nope

oh ok

nevermind then

Hahaha fine 0.01

To make an ID

But that was once Eve

With my dad too, I didn’t have to do anything

and your father took you there didn't he?

@M4Gunner so pedantic

Offense taken

@M4Gunner butbi get your correction

Eat a dick

*americans*

@drydad what about us

Of course not

@drydad we have created the greatest superpower on the planet, that offers the most liberty (should be more but we will work on that) to the induvidual in history

usually the benefits of an open market will lead to inovation and create cheaper ways of doing the same thing in order to win more of the market

We’re not talking about liberty though. Or individualism.

@drydad actually we are

That’s not what social democrats are advocating for.

You can have both.