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they had to scrape off all the manpower they could for fighting
they couldn't afford to waste potential labor
@Tricerius @Budd Dwyer labor camps don't have gas chambers
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@DankMemez it seemed like organized religion attempted that some, but then they conflicted with each other. Additionally, I think that's much more practical in a smaller society, since people are naturally inclined to form smaller groups
I have listened to a lot of the thing that the Zeigeist Movement proposes and talks about, as well as the work of Peter Joseph, and they are correct about a lot of things, the only issue is, all of their proposals are routed in some kind of fundamental change in humanity, and they offer no clear pathway to get there.
I suggest you look into that, but it takes time to understand what they're saying, as its very extensive.
personally, I hate the idea of communism, but if it were just me and 30 other people I'd known since I was born in a forest working to survive, I'm sure I wouldn't have any objection against doing what I can and getting what I need
afaik it was used to disinfect. Then again, to be quite honest with you. If they wanted to kill them off systematically, gassing them is simply not a very cost effective set up.
oh no we missed on from the nuremberg trials
You can just shoot them and bury them en masse.
also, humans are frequently naturally competitive, from a biological basis too, which causes problems in a society like that
you clearly never made bullets before
...or starve them
as was the fate of many soviet PoW's
and I would encourage everyone to stop making assumptions and jump to conclusions, because labeling something as communism or whatever, and then quickly dismissing it, is unwise. Instead, look at the actual proposals and solutions, and see if they check out
@Tricerius @Budd Dwyer so what about surving documents, survivor testament, footage, and testament and American and Soviet soldiers who libertated the camps
and while yes, I agree that in an ideal world we could function that way, however due to the state of humanity (from a biological/psychological standpoint) it isn't practical @DankMemez
@Antiboom we are naturally one of the most socially cooperative species on the planet
um
@DankMemez to be fair, the principle expressed closely matched that of communism
@DankMemez yes, but only in small groups
we literally have A LOT of trouble living completely alone
ants are pretty cooperative
^
it's about group size, I'd say
Also these weren't pows, most were ordinary citizens who happened to be jews
ah yes, the darling heroes: America and the USSR
about 100 people was the optimum amount
German pows were actually treated quite well
did the japanese not have concentration camps either??
As long as they weren't Jewish that is
if we were naturally competitive like that, you'd see humans behaving more like Cheetahs, rather than chimpanzees or meerkats
or is it only when germans are involved
We have actually evolved as hunters-gatherers in small nomadic tribes
@DankMemez I was making my argument from the current state of humanity, in which case the only way to attain those principles would be through trying to force people to
that is our natural proclivity
@DankMemez and I'd argue we see humans acting more like ants but with smaller colonies
or a similar animal
sure, thats socially cooperative
they work together very cooperatively, but will fuck each other up