The Communists entrenched in the media pre WW2. Suppressed the news

no

No u

Don't just say 'no', greyfag. Make an argument

what was gained from them 'making it up' though? 🤔

this isn't a topic I'm wise on

I argue that, wtf are we talking about, commies in the media?

@EnderOctanus wasn't exactly my argument, but kind of. it was more like i was saying, the sheer controversy about the issue, and the sensitivity and hysteria surrounding it, combined with the very large active conspiracy theories about it, leads me to have (some small) doubts in which side's information i should believe

didn't they recently make it illegal to say it didn't happen?

in 17 european countries, it's illegal, yes

well the main newspaper in soviet was the Pravda. it was 100% run and operated by the government. anything that was to in the paper had to pass a KGB officer. I'm sure even asking about something like the Holodomor had ended with you in the trunk with a shovel of a KGB car on a one way trip to the forest

@aradesh And my point is that it's a false flag you are chasing. That opposition pops up because people largely view the subject as black and white, good and evil. So stupid laws get passed in Europe, making the conspiracists feel like they're onto something.

let's say for arguments sake it didn't happen, what does it matter now in 2019?

Most people will say Nazi = evil, Holocaust = evil. I would even agree. But they also took that as grounds to treat anyone going against it as = evil which was the mistake.

too much math for me

so basically wanting to know the reasons behind it is evil

They don't see it that way.

we should just accept evil is evil, no need to know anything else, as you were

They see it as, you trying to prove it didn't happen to exonerate the Nazis.

xD

kind of hard to do that. Nuremberg is long over.

tbh I did have a friend almost unfriend me completely for me even mentioning hitler

"they" know

he'll be the friend to turn you into the stasi when the time comes

it was a bit of a, wait a minute moment

So they see you as evil. And silence you. Which makes you think, "OH FUCK I KNEW THEY WERE HIDING SOMETHING!" when in reality they are just self assured assholes.

I was shut down before I could even finish the sentence

oh fuck, it's they. CHEESE IT!

they xD

it's like we're meant to take one side of the story and leave it as is

well someone's talking about they being behind everything

so if you see they, run.

Yeah, conspiracists tend to believe in a 'they' of some sort.

Shadowy cabbals.

cabbagels

when will we be able to openly discuss this topic irl? 🤔

Or just self righteous populations

the day people stop fearing openly discussing it

@EnderOctanus cabbage

it's much the same as islam

mention it, you must be X