then maybe cons would do a bit better in the polls

no subject is closed for debate, however if you want to do some of those debates on the discord-platform you should be careful unless getting banned is something you want

Okay, go debate the holocaust and look like another lunatic screaming into the void. `"I KNOW THE TRUTH, STOP FUCKING WITH ME, GOD!"`

here of all places is somewhere where surely we can discuss such things

we did the other day

Next we will doubt the Soviet gulags.

Or Japanese human research bases.

you can, be careful, someone could be listening

what do you mean?

government?

@aradesh
Your entire reasoning to doubt the validity of the holocaust was that some people claim it didn't happen.

no, discord bots, shitcunts, anyone who can read your text can store your text and associate it to your discord account

ah

good point

anything you say can be reported to discord and even if you delete it, they will find it via the message-id

so be careful about saying anything of furries. and don't be racist.

And they will associate us with it too, even though I just expressed my opposition to the ideas.

thanks for the headsc up

i forget it too often myself, but then again i try to stand behind what i say. intent, however doesn't pass through text only and what you say can be twisted into nearly anything

Why did the media before WW2 ignore the holodomor, but go full ham about the holocaust afterwards?

The Communists entrenched in the media pre WW2. Suppressed the news

no

No u

Don't just say 'no', greyfag. Make an argument

what was gained from them 'making it up' though? 🤔

this isn't a topic I'm wise on

I argue that, wtf are we talking about, commies in the media?

@EnderOctanus wasn't exactly my argument, but kind of. it was more like i was saying, the sheer controversy about the issue, and the sensitivity and hysteria surrounding it, combined with the very large active conspiracy theories about it, leads me to have (some small) doubts in which side's information i should believe

didn't they recently make it illegal to say it didn't happen?

in 17 european countries, it's illegal, yes

well the main newspaper in soviet was the Pravda. it was 100% run and operated by the government. anything that was to in the paper had to pass a KGB officer. I'm sure even asking about something like the Holodomor had ended with you in the trunk with a shovel of a KGB car on a one way trip to the forest

@aradesh And my point is that it's a false flag you are chasing. That opposition pops up because people largely view the subject as black and white, good and evil. So stupid laws get passed in Europe, making the conspiracists feel like they're onto something.

let's say for arguments sake it didn't happen, what does it matter now in 2019?

Most people will say Nazi = evil, Holocaust = evil. I would even agree. But they also took that as grounds to treat anyone going against it as = evil which was the mistake.

too much math for me

so basically wanting to know the reasons behind it is evil

They don't see it that way.

we should just accept evil is evil, no need to know anything else, as you were

They see it as, you trying to prove it didn't happen to exonerate the Nazis.

xD

kind of hard to do that. Nuremberg is long over.