Message from @Barn_Owl

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2019-06-23 15:34:21 UTC  

I think you could argue that the economic nightmare Germany faced after WW1 does make their resentment and desire for revenge understandable. I can see why many Germans would see war as the only way to improve things. It's shortsighted and foolish but, I can at least understand it. I don't think that would justify hostilities, not even close, but it does give context.

2019-06-23 15:34:59 UTC  

A lot of people didn't know the full scope of Hitler's ambition

2019-06-23 15:35:18 UTC  

They thought he would just get back the Polish parts and Northern Schleswig and leave it at that

2019-06-23 15:36:34 UTC  

Right. But then again the headline is why HITLER had to start WWII. Not the Germans as a whole. So I think I disagree on that basis with the video, though I haven't watched it. Hitler had no redeeming or justifying, humanizing goals in starting war.

2019-06-23 15:36:39 UTC  

If it hadn't been Hitler it would've been someone else

2019-06-23 15:37:03 UTC  

It may have been someone way less insane.

2019-06-23 15:37:40 UTC  

Who genuinely just felt that being blamed for WWI was fucked and wanted to force the Allies to right that wrong.

2019-06-23 15:38:25 UTC  

That would be awful in terms of the cost of human life and suffering but at least the reasoning would have been... Acceptable.

2019-06-23 15:38:42 UTC  

Not evil.

2019-06-23 15:40:39 UTC  

I believe that resource wars are a very human thing. To act like they're an evil thing is to ignore humanity. A war of ideology and racial supremacy? That is evil.

2019-06-23 15:41:08 UTC  

They can be natural and human and still be evil

2019-06-23 15:41:26 UTC  

Yes. But we can at least understand them.

2019-06-23 15:41:40 UTC  

If the Jews had been killed for economic reasons, like the Indians at Wounded Knee, I doubt they would feel much better about it

2019-06-23 15:41:41 UTC  

You know?

2019-06-23 15:42:51 UTC  

That isn't what I meant. I don't think there is ever a circumstance in which ethnic genocide is an economic solution to a problem. Conquering territory is usually what comes to mind.

2019-06-23 15:44:29 UTC  

Anti-semitic rhetoric was common in pre-Nazi Germany, even before Hitler joined the nazi party.

2019-06-23 15:44:31 UTC  

If these people have a kind of intuitive solidarity with each other and can thus put up a consistent effort to prevent you from extracting resources from the territory then genocide is usually the solution that comes to mind for the conquerors

2019-06-23 15:44:38 UTC  

The Germans did it as well in Namibia before Hitler

2019-06-23 15:46:28 UTC  

In much of human history, the people at large didn't give two shits who the person fucking them was, because they were always being fucked. That it was someone else suddenly probably didn't bother them all that much.

2019-06-23 15:47:10 UTC  

Ethnic genocides were pretty common in human history

2019-06-23 15:47:34 UTC  

In the last 2000 years in Europe? Not so much

2019-06-23 15:47:47 UTC  

I mean yeah. That's true. But usually as a way to keep enemy kingdoms weak.

2019-06-23 15:48:01 UTC  

Population is manpower.

2019-06-23 15:48:45 UTC  

The Mongols, the Huns, and the Yamnaya all genocided their way across eurasia

2019-06-23 16:35:27 UTC  

I bet she's Asian

2019-06-23 16:40:18 UTC  

some bellend shot me point blank in the face with a pistol, I had to squeeze the embedded BB out of my chin like a spot

2019-06-23 16:40:44 UTC  

Oi, you got a loicense for that pistol??

2019-06-23 16:42:02 UTC  

freaked my wife out tho lol

2019-06-23 16:42:24 UTC  

I didn't realise a BB was in there until I got home and cleaned the blood off with a wet wipe

2019-06-23 16:42:49 UTC  

"Dust there's something white in there"
'wat'
*looks in mirror*
'o god'

2019-06-23 16:43:39 UTC  

it didn't really hurt before, but as soon as I popped the BB out it *really* hurt

✊🏿

2019-06-23 16:48:53 UTC  

germolene'd it up but it won't stop oozing lol

2019-06-23 16:59:43 UTC  

what retard fucking shot you with a bb gun