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2018-03-05 09:50:29 UTC  

I wonder if there will be space deniers in space colonies of the future.

2018-03-05 09:50:44 UTC  

And, even further into the future, earth deniers.

2018-03-05 13:37:09 UTC  

Earthcucks

2018-03-05 13:37:29 UTC  

oh jesus 😦

2018-03-05 17:06:33 UTC  

I doubt there will be spac colonies

2018-03-05 17:07:29 UTC  

Science Fiction with regard to space exploration has clouded out logic in regards to how we perceive it.

2018-03-05 17:07:56 UTC  

A manned lunar base is not that far off

2018-03-05 17:08:17 UTC  

Based on what?

2018-03-05 17:08:37 UTC  

The technologies we have available

2018-03-05 17:08:46 UTC  

Like?

2018-03-05 17:10:52 UTC  

We are able to land on the the moon, therefore we have the technology for a base already.
A rudimentary one, but with local mineral extraction and manufacturing it's easily possible to build a permanent one

2018-03-05 17:11:48 UTC  

What about the deleterious effects of lower gravity on human physiology?

2018-03-05 17:12:30 UTC  

Or diminishing returns in terms of supply loads?

2018-03-05 17:12:53 UTC  

Ryge problem is the necessary redundancy in the engineering as well

2018-03-05 17:13:05 UTC  

You have one bolt fail and a colony dies

2018-03-05 17:13:37 UTC  

I think you are putting the cart before the horse.

2018-03-05 17:14:51 UTC  

No testing on lunar gravity has been done so far, might be just as bad as 0G, might solve all health issues.

What do you want to return and why?

The ISS is doing well so far, use the same concept and manufacture spares on site

2018-03-05 17:16:00 UTC  

You can only carry so much in terms of supplies to the Colony

2018-03-05 17:16:28 UTC  

What essential supplies cannot be recycled or periodically resupplied?

2018-03-05 17:16:30 UTC  

@[soat] the ISS staff have serious health problems on return to esrth

2018-03-05 17:16:47 UTC  

What if a supply rocket blows?

2018-03-05 17:16:58 UTC  

Yes, which is why we need data on lunar levels of gravity

2018-03-05 17:17:26 UTC  

What if a supply rocket to the iss blows? (as happened before)

2018-03-05 17:17:48 UTC  

The distance is much greater.

2018-03-05 17:19:05 UTC  

But you can harvest most minerals on site, maybe even oxygen

2018-03-05 17:19:27 UTC  

And you can prepare a backup

2018-03-05 17:19:41 UTC  

How do you have the energy to produce them?

2018-03-05 17:19:57 UTC  

Solar

2018-03-05 17:20:19 UTC  

Think of the size of an array you would need

2018-03-05 17:21:58 UTC  

It's much more efficient than on earth, as there is no atmosphere or clouds

2018-03-05 17:22:35 UTC  

It's not that but manufacturing requires lots of electricity

2018-03-05 17:27:33 UTC  

If the necessary components are available you just need a starting base and can expand from there, you don't even necessarily need a crew with more advanced autonomous ground vehicles and remote operators

2018-03-05 17:52:23 UTC  

But would the commercial viability be?

2018-03-05 17:52:38 UTC  

I disagree that it would work but we have to just come to that conclusion

2018-03-05 17:52:51 UTC  

So what would the purpose of investment be?

2018-03-05 20:05:22 UTC  

Staking a claim before anyone else does,
building better telescopes,
building the first base on a different celestial body,
Possibly supplying shipyards in lunar orbit (lower escape velocity than earth, therefore cheaper)

2018-03-05 20:53:57 UTC  

I have an interesting "future conspiracy theory" I'm going to share that I've been thinking about for many years now.

2018-03-05 20:55:04 UTC  

Obviously the united states landed on the moon. The evidence is overwhelming and irrefutable. However, there is one problem. A question moon landing deniers ask that will only get louder as time goes on "Why did we stop going back?"

2018-03-05 20:58:17 UTC  

This question is going to keep being asked past the point that everyone involved with the Apollo missions is going to have died. Eventually, the moon landing deniers are going to win. They'll push their theory across generations, and as long as we never go back they will eventually win the argument. A single trickle of insanity wearing down a boulder of factual evidence.

2018-03-05 20:58:30 UTC  

But it gets worse.

2018-03-05 21:00:28 UTC  

At some point someone else is going to land on the moon. Most likely the Chinese. In the course of their missions there they may decide to pay a visit to one or more Apollo landing sites. And what do you know? They find nothing.