Message from @Szayel's Pooppion
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I have the same exact view as jesse biblically, which a lot of christians don't agree with him about
but I think reading the bible is good to do as a christian, but not essential. after reading it, god will reveal what is true
So not to read it and think oh this is 100% true bc it was written by his & jesus' followers
How wouldn't it be essential if people realized Jesus was the Messiah by the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies?
Others might have just guessed he was a good wizard
from a human perspective yes, humans temper with everything, all the time
It's not saying that I disbelieve the bible at all, but I read it with discernment
keeping in mind that it's an old documented, it has been tampered with
whatever the apostles say in it, if god has revealed those things to be true to me, then they become wisdom for me & what I know to be true
I did not read it and say ah well they said this so it's true!
thats the point of what I'm saying & I know jesse tells ppl
but if God exists, which I believe you agree with, He's certainly capable of preserving some book to his children
It's not that God even needed prophets, miracles or pretty much anything for that matter, but he chose a vehicle for his message and I'm guessing he wouldn't want his word to be tempered with, so
It's logical to conclude that whatever God's word is, it must be perfect
Now I'm not saying you gotta approach the Bible already indoctrinated, because as you said, taking something just cause someone says it is also condemned in the Bible
and obviously wrong and naive
but also approaching as if it's *not* the word of God cause Jesse or whoever else says it, also condemnable
Well, jesse never says to approach it as its not
and thats deff not what I'm saying
as if*
but does he act like you should read it if he doesn't preach it?
actually
I saw him say that you shouldn't read it
you don't approach it with anything in mind
yes, me too
he says that bc often times people who read who aren't awake, become inflated with ego over it
which is what happens to most preachers
I see
I'm fine with people reading it without doubt or belief
so if you read it, just read it, and put it away. Don't cling to anything over it and then go about saying well this apostle said this and that, etc. let it be revealed to you
and theres also people who think reading it will make them more of a christian than others and whatnot, so it all plays into ego, and if you have ego like that, you can't know god
I agree
then satan makes you think you're a christian
thats why he discourages it
which is the worst cause then you think you're settled
yup
he also says not to believe anything he says just bc he says it
there's a lot of jesse worshippers
lol
I was thinking the other day...maybe the Jews want people to attack them to *force* who they think will be the Messiah down, lol
cause God promised they wouldn't be exterminated xD
I pity them
and they can't go about killing themselves
they'll be so trolled by the antichrist, imo