Message from @Jump'n'shootman

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2019-05-17 19:56:37 UTC  

Hhmmmm

2019-05-17 19:56:44 UTC  

Seems fishy

2019-05-17 19:56:46 UTC  

🤔

2019-05-17 19:56:47 UTC  

<:thinking3d:494352154748911646>

2019-05-17 19:56:55 UTC  

go fetch another Sal

2019-05-17 19:57:05 UTC  

I diagnose you with inferiority

2019-05-17 19:58:03 UTC  

anyway @Szayel's Pooppion I sort of agree with your take on Zionists

2019-05-17 19:58:19 UTC  

You mean this take?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575596504702517248/579034989455474756/Capture_2019-05-17-12-02-19.png

2019-05-17 20:00:30 UTC  

@Jump'n'shootman yup, with the whole bible stuff you said next. It's because it has been tampered with. I have read it still though, with special attention to the new testament

2019-05-17 20:01:19 UTC  

Don't you believe God is able to preserve his word if such thing exists?

2019-05-17 20:01:51 UTC  

I have the same exact view as jesse biblically, which a lot of christians don't agree with him about

2019-05-17 20:02:14 UTC  

but I think reading the bible is good to do as a christian, but not essential. after reading it, god will reveal what is true

2019-05-17 20:02:45 UTC  

So not to read it and think oh this is 100% true bc it was written by his & jesus' followers

2019-05-17 20:03:30 UTC  

How wouldn't it be essential if people realized Jesus was the Messiah by the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies?
Others might have just guessed he was a good wizard

2019-05-17 20:03:46 UTC  

from a human perspective yes, humans temper with everything, all the time

2019-05-17 20:04:20 UTC  

It's not saying that I disbelieve the bible at all, but I read it with discernment

2019-05-17 20:04:41 UTC  

keeping in mind that it's an old documented, it has been tampered with

2019-05-17 20:05:07 UTC  

whatever the apostles say in it, if god has revealed those things to be true to me, then they become wisdom for me & what I know to be true

2019-05-17 20:05:20 UTC  

I did not read it and say ah well they said this so it's true!

2019-05-17 20:05:30 UTC  

thats the point of what I'm saying & I know jesse tells ppl

2019-05-17 20:06:24 UTC  

but if God exists, which I believe you agree with, He's certainly capable of preserving some book to his children
It's not that God even needed prophets, miracles or pretty much anything for that matter, but he chose a vehicle for his message and I'm guessing he wouldn't want his word to be tempered with, so
It's logical to conclude that whatever God's word is, it must be perfect
Now I'm not saying you gotta approach the Bible already indoctrinated, because as you said, taking something just cause someone says it is also condemned in the Bible

2019-05-17 20:07:07 UTC  

and obviously wrong and naive

2019-05-17 20:07:37 UTC  

but also approaching as if it's *not* the word of God cause Jesse or whoever else says it, also condemnable

2019-05-17 20:09:47 UTC  

Well, jesse never says to approach it as its not

2019-05-17 20:09:53 UTC  

and thats deff not what I'm saying

2019-05-17 20:10:01 UTC  

as if*

2019-05-17 20:10:06 UTC  

but does he act like you should read it if he doesn't preach it?

2019-05-17 20:10:19 UTC  

actually

2019-05-17 20:10:29 UTC  

I saw him say that you shouldn't read it

2019-05-17 20:10:29 UTC  

you don't approach it with anything in mind

2019-05-17 20:10:42 UTC  

you read it with neither doubt nor belief

2019-05-17 20:10:50 UTC  

yes, me too

2019-05-17 20:11:04 UTC  

he says that bc often times people who read who aren't awake, become inflated with ego over it

2019-05-17 20:11:09 UTC  

which is what happens to most preachers

2019-05-17 20:11:15 UTC  

I see

2019-05-17 20:11:31 UTC  

I'm fine with people reading it without doubt or belief

2019-05-17 20:11:42 UTC  

so if you read it, just read it, and put it away. Don't cling to anything over it and then go about saying well this apostle said this and that, etc. let it be revealed to you

2019-05-17 20:12:16 UTC  

and theres also people who think reading it will make them more of a christian than others and whatnot, so it all plays into ego, and if you have ego like that, you can't know god

2019-05-17 20:12:27 UTC  

I agree

2019-05-17 20:12:31 UTC  

then satan makes you think you're a christian

2019-05-17 20:12:38 UTC  

thats why he discourages it