I can't ban

when the

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/86484642730885120/717086348107841698/5b7ngilrca251.png

hmm

who're they

People who engaged in Thirty Years' War

It was probably the most devastating war in Europe

ww1

was worse i would say

WW1 killed ~1.5% of human population and Thirty Years' War nearly 2%. German and Czech lands recovered much slower compared to WW1.

yeah but the 30 years war left a slight political hegemony that was stable, ww1 directly lead to the onset of ww2 if were talking about after effects

and the human population thing, population demographics expanded after colonial expansion and industrialization

Thirty Years' War led to more agressive colonization, that caused many deaths as well and it made free space for Prussian militarism.
Human population thing is legit in this comparison, because even with tanks, gas, aircraft and more urbanized population WW1 killed less % of European population than few absolute monarchs.

the wars covered similar land mass but the populations of the worlds landmass had drastically changed. Outside of Prussian expansion, I wouldnt say the 30 years war lead to much more.

but fair enough i guess

The 30 years war broke the popes monopoly on European geopolitics

And it pushed countries to focus their warlike tendencies to the Americas

Plus it made people question previous religious and moral ideas which led to the enlightenment

WWII was the most devastating

But it helped make the world better in the long run

WWI was less devastating but it did very little to help improve the world

The end of WWI only brought about more chaos which would end in 1945

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150610093225.htm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717223921329635379/725911702792831016/Accuratesomeonetellme_62780e_7801269.mp4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/439519668819066880/726368800093634580/video0_2.mp4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506607965575315466/726513013183479930/70260490_133044698111919_5064829431721516873_n.mp4

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lol