but not everyone will have the same relationship with Him

I also just believe in the Catholic Churches teachings, like how when the host and wine are concentrated, they Fully become the body and blood of Christ, while in other denominations, such as Lutheranism, they believe that the bread and wine are still bread and wine and that they rather just represent Jesus’s body and blood

Do they really?

sounds like heresy, not gonna lie.

Yes, I have some Lutheran friends that are extremely adamant about their faith

The blood and body of Christ is present in that moment

Yes

Jesus didn't say "this represents my blood and body"

2, 4, 6, 8
***Time to transubstantiate!***

He said "this is my body", "this is my blood"

And I think that actually partaking in the body and blood of Christ is indicative of a special or at least different relationship with God

Amen

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Jesus also said "It is easyer for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to heaven." But he did not mean it literally as its impossible and he managed to convert Zacheus who WAS a rich and corrupt man

so paradox, either jesus contradicted himself literally or everything that jesus said is not LITERAL

He made lots of parables

Of which his simple minded followers DID take him literally.

Yep

But in general he is basically saying that heaven is a reward for he who follows all ten commandments

Again if it was also his LITERAL blood and flesh you would be committing cannibalism, a SIN in gods eyes. So lets put this dumb catholic cult ideology behind us.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven.If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.

52The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.

54He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

55For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.

56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.

58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.

66After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him.

He told us "eat this bread and drink this cup"

Look at Him literally skewered on the cross. He IS the pascal lamb, which must be consumed by the faithful. Every Jew on the night of Passover had to eat of the flesh of the lamb.

Yes, God told the Jews to paint their door frames with lambs blood so the angel of death would Passover them, how can you get more literal?

The host and wine do become the literal flesh of Jesus

Yes but that "transubstantiation" was also a belief a bunch of workmen of the day believed because they took everything he said literally, missing his point.

the word of god is not literal seeds and people are not different kinds of dirt.

there is a lot of messianic symbolism but thats all it is.

they did not kill Jesus paint his blood on walls and then canibalize him.

and this conversation has gone to far entertaining this unbiblical principle.

It is not unbiblical, to say that it is unbiblical, is to say that your interpretation is biblical, and you have yet to substantial proof supporting your claim, and the whole parable argument shows no true correlation with the matter of Jesus’s body and blood, because....wait for it..... Jesus can say things that are not meant to be taken literally, and can say things that are. Did Jesus not say that he would die on a cross and rise on the third day? And yet you aren’t saying that it is ‘unbiblical’ to believe that. Jesus said, “My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink.” John 6:55

Jesus literally states that what we eat at communion is in fact his body and blood

symbolicly

he also said that whoever eats his bread symbolizing him would never die, and strangely all people who take commuinion still die naturally

If you still beleive that transubstantiationism is real then show me proof that it does become human flesh and human blood in the body after taken

He meant never die spiritually, for someone who is calling us simple-minded for interpreting things literally, you sure do take things literally

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