Message from @DannyNC1
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I thought it wasn’t a choice? You said it wasn’t a choice
It’s complicated
Everyone has sin. We all have temptations
It's only complicated when you are still trying to hold on to it on one side while agreeing with God on the other. You have to pick a side. Problem is, if you don't go God's way, it's the wrong way.
I can do both, I can be a gay Christian. As long as I love Jesus, follow in his example, follow the Ten Commandments, and go to church would that make me a Christian
Going to church makes you as much a Christian as going to a garage makes you a car
If God has allowed someone a temptation, He will also give that person the grace to overcome it. It’s why God allows suffering too. For our betterment. We belong to him. You can suffer from same-sex attraction and be a Christian yes.
You can't on one side acknowledge it as a sin but yet on the other embrace it like you can still be it and be Christian. It's like saying you can be a Christian murderer, a Christian bank robber, etc.
Then what makes a Christian
First of all it is getting saved from the consequences of your sins by trusting that the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for them, and repenting of them before God. That's preliminary before anything else.
So since you are not willing to repent of something that you do acknowledge as sin then that shows you are not at the first step yet
It doesn’t make sense. Why would god make my temptation biological. Why would he make temptation that doesn’t have any punishment in the mortal world and actually it improves the quality of life of someone. All major sins are immoral and to me homosexuality isn’t immoral
Why would I acknowledge something that improved the world and cause no suffering
It doesn’t make sense
Why me,
Why did he make me gay
Why do I deserve this
That's the thing, it is not biological. No one is born with the biological bent for homosexuality. Somehow you are the victim of misinformation.
I disagree
There is punishment in the physical world for homosexuality. There are many STDs as a result of it.
You may think it is not immoral, but people are not the ones that make up what is wrong or right. It is when a person violates God's law that it is a sin. I think people here have already well proven to you homosexuality is against God's law.
Satan can make sin appear so sweet at first, but it always goes sour
How has homosexuality improved the world? Maybe people that embraced it did things unconnected that were helpful, but I don't see any way that it has improved the world.
Look at the alcoholic: he may say, I’m not hurting anyone and it makes my life better. But many people have died from it.
I think that somehow deep down you are here on this channel seeking help, but it doesn't appear that you are listening to what people are trying to help you about.
No I’m not.your born gay. You truly don’t understand homosexuality. I’m going to get a study
Our Lord wants to free us from our sins, not leave us there. It is difficult.
No, no one is born homosexual. If they were, God would have made more than Adam and Eve. He would have made Adam and Steve.
STDs = punishment from god
Do you actually know anyone gay in real life
Gal. 6:7, "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
Yes, I do.
It is an unnatural disordered attraction, but i believe it does happen. Look at people who are prone to ADD. You cannot say they choose to have ADD
Second the Adam and Eve argument makes no sense. If he made Adam and Steve they wouldn’t be able to reproduce. It would destroy logic. Adam and Eve aren’t the example for what love is.
It’s not a perfect analogy
So you are acknowledging that homosexuality is a perversion of the order that God originally intended from the beginning.
Never demonized it. I said that the bible condemns gay sex and if you are a christian you are in contradiction to it. If you were not a christian then it doesnt matter. Again biblical rules only apply to christians. Hindu's dont have to follow it, or atheists or people who worship the egyptian gods.
But is it making your life better? What about Gay sex makes your life better than a gay life without gay sex?
@Mercy It's more than that Christians ought follow it--all will be judged by the Bible before God on Judgment Day, no matter the religion they profess. It will be the great reckoning day.