Message from @Shifrah
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I told you it wasn't about trump
https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1348694943905308672
To say he didn't handle it well is the understatement of the decade, IMO. I have outlined to you a few of the reasons that I believe Trump acted more like a dictator than an elected official.
You have made it clear that you disagree. That is perfectly fine, you are not alone. But, neither am I in my position that he acted like a dictator, broke laws left and right, rewarded those who chose loyalty to him over loyalty to the country and attacked those that chose loyalty to the country over Trump.
My point if very simply this :
At this late stage in the ballgame I am not so delusional to believe that I can convince a Trump Supporter that they have been duped.
If a person's support of Trump has remained intact from calling Mexicans rapist, to family separation at the border.
From kids dying in cages to him violating the Emoluments Clause.
From his racist tendencies to his botched CoVid Response.
From circumventing Congress to start building the wall to his attack on War Heroes like McCain.
From asking Ukraine to interfere in our election to pulling out of the Paris Accord.
From inviting the Taliban to Camp David to giving Turkey a green light to invade Syria and attack our Kurdish allies.
From pardoning War Criminals to inciting an insurgence at the Capitol in an attempt to halt the peaceful transfer of power.....
.....then there is really nothing I could possible say to now convince a person that their support should finally, at long last be revoked.
You have a lot of strawmans there.
I am hispanic and the hispanic support for trump is huge.
Believe it or not a lot of us oppose illegal immigration.
Being brown doesn't suddenly make you love illegal immigration.
He never called all mexicans rapists, he clearly pointed out that
many of those coming over the border illegally are rapists.
How do we know this? Because rape happens at an alarming rate
at the border.
You think I escaped crime and poverty from my country just to have the same
lacras piece of trash people that ruined my country come over here? No.
Back in my country my aunt literally lives in the second floor above an out in the
Open gangbanger who everybody knows in the neighborhood.
You think I want people like that coming over? No. I want people to be vetted and
be let in if they're going to contribute.
These goddamn white people see it all in rosy color because when they go to our countries they never actually go to the barrios.
They stay in the nice resort areas away from reality.
Its not a strawman. I too oppose illegal immigration. I opposed it back when Obama was called the "deporter in chief" - He actually presided over more deportations in his first 3 years than did Trump.
Its not that I am for open borders, Im not. I am not for illegal immigration. My problem was with the manner in which Trump executed the policy.
Do you know how many children who were separated from their family at the border and died in US custody under Obama?
0
Do you know how many died under Bush?
0
Its not that I am for illegal immigration. Im not. We can enforce our laws without being needlessly cruel and reckless.
"Incitement" Timeline Debunked as Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Pelosi, McConnell's Sergeants-at-Arms Refused Security Measures - The National Pulse
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/ex-capitol-police-chief-says-pelosi-mcconnells-sergeants-at-arms-refused-security-measures-while-new-timeline-proves-trump-incitement-claims-bogus/
@Kitty Lee, you just advanced to level 4!
Ok so pence and Trump met today how’s that if trump in Texas or is he back lol
I don’t know why fake and true anymore
I don't know how this didn't come out to rebute Guillianis claim in Georgia and only came out now. https://youtu.be/pjKXvqSNIkk
A federal judge said Parler never served Amazon with its lawsuit!
At 4:29pm EST she gave Parler until 5pm PST today to serve Amazon. (Amazon told the court it intends to oppose the suit.) As we noted Parler is represented by a sole practitioner IP lawyer
Same tactics.
> I don't know how this didn't come out to rebute Guillianis claim in Georgia and only came out now.
@xa aka sa All of this information was coming out in real time. Unfortunately, the people who really needed to hear it were watching conspiracy theories in places that have a direct interest in propagating the myth that no one thought to look into these things. This hasn't registered for those people yet.
Maybe they pulled a Maricopa County move and just never accepted the subpoena.
Oh! Can’t address it if we never see it! Might as well say it doesn’t exist.
What did they say here that they didn’t already say?
They admit that counting was going to stop and they were packing up. They admit counting continued after the observers left, which is the key issue. Apparently that’s standard procedure and no big deal.
They only disagree with the observers’ claim that they were literally “told” to leave. Why didn’t they inform the observers that counting would resume? Why have observers at all? Did they audit these ballots since they were scanned without observers?
It’s great that their televised response was aired by 60 Minutes on CBS to be seen by millions, yet the original hearing wasn’t covered. One-sided coverage. Very persuasive. Not like it matters at this point.
Goldman, JPMorgan, Citi Suspend Political Donations
Is this for treat? If it is we are in scary times!!! https://www.newsmax.com/Finance/streettalk/goldman-jpmorgan-citi/2021/01/11/id/1005046/
Yep been explaining this forever.
That’s as “true” of a ruling you’ll get from them for such a claim.
Oh it did.... That Gabriel guy on the left invited a local Atlanta news crew in to watch the entire video weeks ago. In fact, if you recall that "hearing" in GA that Team Trump put on one of the GA Lawmakers said something like 'that crap with the suitcases under the table has been debunked'
BUT.... it just didn't get a ton of news coverage on FOX, NewsMax or OAN.
Media bubbles are not just bad because of the stories the networks choose to cover and the manner they cover them - its equally bad if not worse because of what they DONT cover or report on....
This is one reason why those that rely mainly on FOX as their new outlet have consistently rated as the least informed viewers
We've been covering this forever.
And it was always some excuse to dismiss it and not watch it.
Did it happen? No.
But threats are good if you're convinced you're right. We've been over this.
“Georgia officials call on Trump to agree that 2+2=4”
Trump hasn’t responded so he must not believe it.
"Biden and Kamala have to denounce the riots."
Okay then.
No matter how many times they denounce white supremacy or violence, this stuff still comes up.
No, it's his rhetoric that was causing this and he wasn't doing anything about it.
Yeah, many riots had occurred. Did they denounce the threat of violence from riots beforehand?
And these threats occurred, I don't understand why you're pivoting off your original point now.
"It should be known that they're against violence."
"Therefore they shouldn't have to."



