Message from @Maw

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2021-01-12 09:43:27 UTC  

is it on video?

2021-01-12 09:43:40 UTC  

And attempting to beat another officer to death.

2021-01-12 09:43:58 UTC  

And attempting to crush another officer to death.

2021-01-12 09:44:19 UTC  

yes, the person beating him with extinguisher will likely go down with at least Manslaughter, likely Murder 2

2021-01-12 09:44:22 UTC  

Not a released one yet. But I am sure with all the cameras and phones with cameras recording it probably was

2021-01-12 09:44:46 UTC  

... manslaughter... for literally murdering someone with a blunt instrument. Interesting take.

2021-01-12 09:44:47 UTC  

well, when you find that video, and ID that person, then.....

2021-01-12 09:44:56 UTC  

Oh, guarantee you they have.

2021-01-12 09:44:58 UTC  

@maw can I link to a Donut operator video released about this...

2021-01-12 09:45:28 UTC  

This is the capitol building we're talking about, surveillance everywhere.

2021-01-12 09:45:47 UTC  

Not low-tech surveillance neither.

2021-01-12 09:45:55 UTC  

He did not die until later, and was "fine" for several hours. I bet the cause of death would be an epidural hematoma

2021-01-12 09:46:22 UTC  

That image is so... smdh.

2021-01-12 09:46:25 UTC  

oh.... ok, sorry I was not aware of that image

2021-01-12 09:46:35 UTC  

That's not even the officer that died.

2021-01-12 09:46:42 UTC  

That's just one they tried to murder.

2021-01-12 09:47:17 UTC  

Beat him over the back of the head with an American flag.

2021-01-12 09:47:28 UTC  

While he was unconscious.

2021-01-12 09:47:33 UTC  

No that one did survive, thankfully... But it had me wondering where his partner was and why lead wasn't flying...

2021-01-12 09:47:48 UTC  

You can see his partner's boots in the image.

2021-01-12 09:49:09 UTC  

I know, I am just saying that in situations like that protecting a downed officer from additional harm... Its a tough situation.

2021-01-12 09:49:35 UTC  

And there is no training or preparation for it either

2021-01-12 09:49:51 UTC  

You're seriously making it up on the fly

2021-01-12 09:50:40 UTC  

ok, so just watch half the vide

it is horrible btw.... hard to watch

Thats not the officer that died, but all those people are likely to be charged attempted murder (the ones beating, and at least conspiracy to attempted murder for all in vicinity

2021-01-12 09:50:57 UTC  

for Brian Sicknicks, they need the video, or they wont get anyone

2021-01-12 09:51:18 UTC  

You want to see another bad one? Go watch the officer nearly crushed to death as his ribs break and rupture his lungs.

2021-01-12 09:51:43 UTC  

As he screams.

2021-01-12 09:51:59 UTC  

Be forewarned, it's disturbing.

2021-01-12 09:52:50 UTC  

I highly doubt that the Capitol surveillance system didn't catch it. More than likely they want the vids from people because they don't want to reveal the level of sophistication they have in their cameras and facial recognition etc.

2021-01-12 09:53:10 UTC  

for the officer being dragged, as horrible as it is, likely it would be hard to charge attempted felony murder the person who is sanding far away in the corner....
and it looks like a couple people were actually trying to help, so they may plead out. Rest are conspiracy, quite reasonable.....

not sure what min/max sentences all those carry

2021-01-12 09:53:34 UTC  

I haven't seen it yet. Although something tells me that I am going to see it soon whether I want to or not

2021-01-12 09:53:52 UTC  

Dont forget @Maw, that what you charge you have to prove in court, which is why I brought in "beyond the reasonable doubt"

2021-01-12 09:54:14 UTC  

link? for the officer video?

2021-01-12 09:55:10 UTC  

but when you have a video like that, its pretty damming with a jury, so unless you can say "I went to front line and begged them to stop and begged them to leave the officer alone, and tried to fight them.....

2021-01-12 09:56:13 UTC  

they dont have to release this to the public, it can be presented and sealed in court

2021-01-12 09:56:16 UTC  

I can't link it here.

2021-01-12 09:56:20 UTC  

@Eden I don't know if you really want to watch it. It's hard to get screams like the ones @Maw is describing out of your mind...

2021-01-12 09:56:50 UTC  

ok, maybe not before bed.... i'm not big on people screaming in pain

2021-01-12 09:56:55 UTC  

It's very easy to fracture ribs though.

2021-01-12 09:57:24 UTC  

and its one of the more innervated and painful area of the body