Message from @Maw

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2021-01-12 03:15:57 UTC  

Yes, she went beyond the acceptable line with a gun literally pointed in her face.

2021-01-12 03:16:15 UTC  

I read she was not even armed

2021-01-12 03:16:38 UTC  

I have mixed feelings about it. That’s worded poorly because it was tragic she lost her life. But if that officer let her in, more are going to come through and overwhelm that area as well and I think that is where the congresspeople were hiding.

2021-01-12 03:16:55 UTC  

Where is the part where she is getting dragged though the mud by 'the media'?

2021-01-12 03:16:55 UTC  

I do not know what compels you to continue trying to push through a barricaded area when you have a gun literally pointed at you.

2021-01-12 03:17:45 UTC  

Her death was extremely unfortunate, and I'd much rather that the capitol police actually did their job, but this wasn't your standard riot guard.

2021-01-12 03:18:15 UTC  

Exactly, perhaps she did not see it or know a gun was being pointed at her. The officer waited till she almost come into the room and shot once. I don’t think he will get any charges.

2021-01-12 03:22:02 UTC  

These people take protecting the government body extremely seriously.

2021-01-12 03:22:18 UTC  

What else could you have expected as they're trying to evacuate people?

2021-01-12 03:23:17 UTC  

She was unarmed. I just feel as a trained officer, there should be other ways to suppress unlawful action other than shooting an unarmed person breaking the law.

2021-01-12 03:24:51 UTC  

He was protecting government officials from a mob inside of the building. I'm not one to protect officers usually, but this seems like a case of "well what else could you do if you're the last of the line?"

2021-01-12 03:25:21 UTC  

He had to hold them there to protect government officials evacuating.

2021-01-12 03:25:44 UTC  

This isn't a single person, keep that in mind. This is a mob.

2021-01-12 03:26:07 UTC  

He could have arrested her. Used a stun gun or other means to contain her.

2021-01-12 03:26:37 UTC  

He wasn't a traditional officer, he didn't have a stun gun, nor backup. And there was a mob on the other side of the door.

2021-01-12 03:26:51 UTC  

I don't know, I feel officers should be trained to used a gun or life-ending measure as a last defense.

2021-01-12 03:27:02 UTC  

This isn't a traditional officer.

2021-01-12 03:27:21 UTC  

I think we need to take a critical look at what led up to her being there to begin with. The President, Social Media compaies, and RWM led her to that moment and for NOTHING. The election was not stolen and they all know it. You see all of these companies reeling and trying to extricate themselves from the guilt they all share.

That officer trying to protect his charges from an angry mob, I am sure, is having to deal with the consequences of his actions. He did not want to take that woman's life. He did not want to be in that position and he shouldn't have been.

2021-01-12 03:27:32 UTC  

What type of officer shot her?

2021-01-12 03:27:32 UTC  

@bunny_foofoo9, you just advanced to level 1!

2021-01-12 03:27:54 UTC  

Congressional security detail. Like the secret service, basically.

2021-01-12 03:30:58 UTC  

We disagree I see. I just think, when you decide to become an officer, or secret service, you know there may be certain things required of you. Think of the men/women who died during 9/11. But their training kicked in and they did their job despite the unusual circumstances. I do not know what kind of screening and/or training can better prepare these officers to handle these situations.

2021-01-12 03:31:18 UTC  

This again, is not your traditional officer.

2021-01-12 03:31:32 UTC  

This dude has himself and a gun.

2021-01-12 03:32:12 UTC  

He doesn't have a GM with a deployable minigun.

2021-01-12 03:32:57 UTC  

You got to remember these folks are the last line of defense when it comes to protecting important people.

2021-01-12 03:33:20 UTC  

The fact that he ever had to get involved is a travesty.

2021-01-12 03:34:38 UTC  

Maw, I agree.

2021-01-12 03:34:52 UTC  

It should have never gotten to this point.

2021-01-12 03:36:22 UTC  

Also... This was not a harmless field trip to the US Capital. People were found to have long rifles, IED's, Molotov cocktails, homemade napalm, firearms, and a host of other weapons. He was behind an improvised barricade and unable to determine what was happening on the other side. For all he knew, they were placing explosives to remove the barricade.

2021-01-12 03:37:14 UTC  

He likely had been hearing about officers being beaten repeatedly, officers being crushed and more.

2021-01-12 03:37:44 UTC  

Like, what do you expect of the dude when someone's trying to crawl through your barricade and there are a bunch of people screaming on the other side?

2021-01-12 03:38:35 UTC  

Crawling through the barricade despite you holding a gun in their face*

2021-01-12 03:39:31 UTC  

I am not sure the training protocol under those circumstances. But there had to be some training. They are trained to bring our officials to a bunker during an insurgence. So there must have been procedure to handle barricades being broken. Others were not shot that entered through broken windows.

2021-01-12 03:40:07 UTC  

The procedure I imagine is to stop them by any means necessary if they're already breaching the capitol building and you're on your last stand.

2021-01-12 03:40:23 UTC  

Again, these people aren't your traditional police.

2021-01-12 03:41:30 UTC  

Is Biden advising people not to come his inauguration? I have not heard either way?

2021-01-12 03:42:41 UTC  

I just heard trump may be about to declare martial law in the next 3 days this is coming from somebody who knows folks in govt so he says have 2 wks food cash on hand plenty gas etc. So just in case this is true thought I'd let everyone here know

2021-01-12 03:43:19 UTC  

Always good to be prepared, but I doubt that'll happen, at all.

2021-01-12 03:43:38 UTC  

Unless Trump wants to get impeached/25thed for real.

2021-01-12 03:43:55 UTC  

I know I dont wanna believe it but yea just in case ...