Message from @Karnivore

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2020-02-07 22:23:35 UTC  

im sry getting heatset

2020-02-07 22:23:42 UTC  

lol

2020-02-07 22:47:24 UTC  

Y’all are welcome

2020-02-07 23:41:23 UTC  

Were it not for buddhist teachings I would’ve not grown and learned so much

2020-02-07 23:41:54 UTC  

Society’s perception of love is so distorted nowadays, most people have started relationships out of need

2020-02-07 23:44:30 UTC  

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2020-02-08 00:11:13 UTC  

Actually Western Civilization has nothing to do with co-dependent relationships.
Having experienced several codependent persons in the past, codependency starts with one person training another to literally jump through irrational hoops. The other person unknowingly gets caught up in it. In other relationships both parties come into it already codependent, and it just evolves from there. If your stable enough to recognize the insanity, it's very easy to pull out of the relationship as it is like fleeing to safety. If you're not stable enough, codependent relationship creates its own cognitive dissonance which pulls you deeper into it. Learning about cognitive dissonance is the best way to guard against falling into a codependent relationship.

2020-02-08 01:14:03 UTC  

Very well said, AZ. I knew you were very sharp.

2020-02-08 01:47:20 UTC  

Never underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance.

2020-02-08 01:55:00 UTC  

@Karnivore it can become debilitating trying to figure out multiple if not dozens of conflicting ideas at the same time. Another aspect to look at is what used to be called neurosis. Now called OCD amongst other things. Neurosis can cover a whole gamut of Behavioral issues. My experience has been people who are neurotic create and co-dependent relationships in order to irrationally manipulate the other person. The cognitive dissonance created in the mind of the victim then causes them to participate in the codependency as a way of fighting back. At this point both parties seemingly have lost their minds

2020-02-08 01:56:08 UTC  

You are precisely correct.

2020-02-08 01:56:48 UTC  

I believe that fewer and fewer people have discernment, in any shape or form.

2020-02-08 01:57:29 UTC  

I knew one entire family that was completely codependent

2020-02-08 01:57:55 UTC  

They can't even figure out what to wear, so how could they be expected to figure out a complex issue, or 50 complex issues that we incur in our daily lives?

2020-02-08 01:58:10 UTC  

I do see that these things run in families, too.

2020-02-08 01:58:22 UTC  

Just the cognitive dissonance is a mind fuck

2020-02-08 01:58:28 UTC  

Absolutely true.

2020-02-08 01:58:30 UTC  

You can't think straight

2020-02-08 01:58:41 UTC  

👍

2020-02-08 01:58:54 UTC  

I feel for folks who have these types of issues.

2020-02-08 01:58:59 UTC  

I really do.

2020-02-08 01:59:19 UTC  

I want to help them, somehow.

2020-02-08 01:59:23 UTC  

The problem is they pull you in

2020-02-08 01:59:42 UTC  

That was going to be my next statement, exactly.

2020-02-08 01:59:48 UTC  

They don't want to destroy you necessarily, they just want company

2020-02-08 02:00:10 UTC  

You have to have HUGE resources and dedication, in order to pull someone out of that.

2020-02-08 02:00:27 UTC  

I've never pulled anyone out of it, ended up having to walk away

2020-02-08 02:00:59 UTC  

I think perhaps it would be a better plan to get them more in touch with Jesus Christ.

2020-02-08 02:01:06 UTC  

and let Jesus Christ help.

2020-02-08 02:01:11 UTC  

You've heard of the crazy stalker girlfriend?

2020-02-08 02:01:48 UTC  

Sure. Never had one....well, one in high school was a bit wacky, but not exactly a stalker.

2020-02-08 02:02:05 UTC  

Well you missed out buddy

2020-02-08 02:02:11 UTC  

LOL

2020-02-08 02:02:18 UTC  

🤣

2020-02-08 02:02:23 UTC  

it's never too late for a stalker girlfriend, eh?

2020-02-08 02:02:30 UTC  

especially given the power of the internet

2020-02-08 02:03:00 UTC  

If you're married I guarantee your wife will find out

2020-02-08 02:03:04 UTC  

.

2020-02-08 02:03:14 UTC  

agreed