Message from @JunoBlade

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2020-12-09 20:04:09 UTC  

So are atoms

2020-12-09 20:04:21 UTC  

if there were such particles, we do not have the ability to see them

2020-12-09 20:04:31 UTC  

BUT....

2020-12-09 20:04:31 UTC  

way to go @JunoBlade, you just advanced to level 21 <:magahat:772838503239122984>

2020-12-09 20:04:33 UTC  

YET

2020-12-09 20:04:48 UTC  

The main reason we know about such things is because we can see that there are INTERACTIONS

2020-12-09 20:04:53 UTC  

Why do you refuse to believe that further technology COULD change the smallest particle

2020-12-09 20:05:13 UTC  

unless we see interactions BELOW a subatomic level, then we will never be able to even theorize about them

2020-12-09 20:05:34 UTC  

Right, but you don't know that we won't see that at some point

2020-12-09 20:05:34 UTC  

i.e. dark matter... we KNOW it exists... because we can see it's gravitational effect

2020-12-09 20:06:09 UTC  

I don't... but there is not point in arguing about or theorizing about it until we have some evidence of its existence

2020-12-09 20:06:10 UTC  

Okay but what about smaller than quarks.

2020-12-09 20:06:24 UTC  

Nothing smaller than quarks at this time

2020-12-09 20:06:39 UTC  

My point in arguing about smaller than quarks now is because you're seeming to say that settled science can't really change

2020-12-09 20:06:53 UTC  

So is fact considered eternal or changable ?

2020-12-09 20:07:39 UTC  

Or do we say fact is what an actual temperature actually is, as opposed to the measure of that said temperature ?

2020-12-09 20:07:51 UTC  

Because that fact will always be eternal

2020-12-09 20:07:53 UTC  

I never said THAT science is settled

2020-12-09 20:08:03 UTC  

I said SOME sciences are settled

2020-12-09 20:08:35 UTC  

You are getting into esoteric ideas there that really have no basis in science.

2020-12-09 20:09:04 UTC  

Temperature is temperature... just likel the speed of light is the speed of light.

2020-12-09 20:09:14 UTC  

we don't change it just because we assign it a new name

2020-12-09 20:09:14 UTC  

Well, honestly like I said, future instruments could see smaller than chromosomes, you just dont know

2020-12-09 20:09:50 UTC  

Yes... but we DO know that those chomosomes are what determine things about your genetic makeup. That's what they are SUPPOSED to do

2020-12-09 20:10:00 UTC  

and we know that is what they DO do

2020-12-09 20:10:29 UTC  

and we know a certain combination of those chomosomes will determine if you are a genetic make or a genetic female

2020-12-09 20:10:36 UTC  

According to the scientific study. Just because it gave us a believable result doesn't make it 100% fact. Now, we've been taught those things all our lives so we take them as 100% fact

2020-12-09 20:10:56 UTC  

I just don't believe that anything is truly factual, and that's just my belief

2020-12-09 20:11:12 UTC  

More circular logic... if you are unwilling to believe anything is fact, again, you are gonna have a rough time

2020-12-09 20:11:27 UTC  

So then I'll have a rough time, so what, that's on me

2020-12-09 20:11:30 UTC  

And nothing says that facts can't change

2020-12-09 20:11:41 UTC  

You said certain facts don't change

2020-12-09 20:11:50 UTC  

BUT... you have to live and believe according to the facts available to you at this time

2020-12-09 20:12:06 UTC  

Ceratin facts don't....

2020-12-09 20:12:15 UTC  

the speed of ligt is the speed of light.

2020-12-09 20:12:21 UTC  

you are pregant or you are not

2020-12-09 20:12:32 UTC  

you are a genetic male or a genetic female

2020-12-09 20:12:36 UTC  

That's different than what I said. I didn't say I don't live according to those facts. Certain facts, I do live by.

2020-12-09 20:13:04 UTC  

I just portend that not all facts are indeed facts

2020-12-09 20:13:10 UTC  

Some facts in science are VERY unlikely to change...

2020-12-09 20:13:41 UTC  

Just because the chance of some sort of change in those facts is infinitessimally small does not mean I should throw out the fact