i.e. dark matter... we KNOW it exists... because we can see it's gravitational effect

I don't... but there is not point in arguing about or theorizing about it until we have some evidence of its existence

Okay but what about smaller than quarks.

Nothing smaller than quarks at this time

My point in arguing about smaller than quarks now is because you're seeming to say that settled science can't really change

So is fact considered eternal or changable ?

Or do we say fact is what an actual temperature actually is, as opposed to the measure of that said temperature ?

Because that fact will always be eternal

I never said THAT science is settled

I said SOME sciences are settled

You are getting into esoteric ideas there that really have no basis in science.

Temperature is temperature... just likel the speed of light is the speed of light.

we don't change it just because we assign it a new name

Well, honestly like I said, future instruments could see smaller than chromosomes, you just dont know

Yes... but we DO know that those chomosomes are what determine things about your genetic makeup. That's what they are SUPPOSED to do

and we know that is what they DO do

and we know a certain combination of those chomosomes will determine if you are a genetic make or a genetic female

According to the scientific study. Just because it gave us a believable result doesn't make it 100% fact. Now, we've been taught those things all our lives so we take them as 100% fact

I just don't believe that anything is truly factual, and that's just my belief

More circular logic... if you are unwilling to believe anything is fact, again, you are gonna have a rough time

So then I'll have a rough time, so what, that's on me

And nothing says that facts can't change

You said certain facts don't change

BUT... you have to live and believe according to the facts available to you at this time

Ceratin facts don't....

the speed of ligt is the speed of light.

you are pregant or you are not

you are a genetic male or a genetic female

That's different than what I said. I didn't say I don't live according to those facts. Certain facts, I do live by.

I just portend that not all facts are indeed facts

Some facts in science are VERY unlikely to change...

Just because the chance of some sort of change in those facts is infinitessimally small does not mean I should throw out the fact

Before, we weren't talking about the liklihood of facts changing, we were just talking about them changing at all.

Liklihood would be different for me too

The change os these facts changing is so small that they are not likely to change, ever

And I never said we should "throw out" facts.

We must accept them then, on that basis

I was just having an intellectual discussion about facts and the possibilities

We can't live our lives on possibilities

We can me you, but it doesn't have to mean me, lol.

huh??