Message from @zatoichi

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2019-04-16 17:19:53 UTC  

but I mean far more basic stuff

2019-04-16 17:19:59 UTC  

In CA, they'd blow him for being a true commie.

2019-04-16 17:19:59 UTC  

Sometimes I think democracy is doomed to failure. Only authoritarian regimes can survive. Like Islamic theocracy. Or Chinese style totalitarianism.

2019-04-16 17:20:13 UTC  

you aren't even allowed to own property /real estate there without being a citizen

2019-04-16 17:20:41 UTC  

@zatoichi no ...
the US had a good run, before universal suffrage

2019-04-16 17:20:50 UTC  

Every rule has a work around.

2019-04-16 17:21:03 UTC  

like tfm said in his trichotomy videos, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater ... don't go to the other extremes

2019-04-16 17:21:22 UTC  

sure, democracy is doomed to fail, with women voting

2019-04-16 17:21:38 UTC  

Democracy is mob rule

2019-04-16 17:21:41 UTC  

(and this fucking corrupt "representation" we have atm)

2019-04-16 17:21:46 UTC  

@conker Yes, that's true. But you'd have limited property rights living in an Islamic Europe. Non Muslims have to pay the Jizya tax to Muslims - up to 50% of their income.

2019-04-16 17:21:47 UTC  

And the mod is made up of idiots

2019-04-16 17:21:53 UTC  

yeah, right ... totally agree

2019-04-16 17:22:00 UTC  

that's why only net tax payers should vote

2019-04-16 17:22:11 UTC  

^

2019-04-16 17:22:20 UTC  

Constitutional republic

2019-04-16 17:22:22 UTC  

I don't entirely agree with that.

2019-04-16 17:22:27 UTC  

That's what we're supposed to be

2019-04-16 17:22:37 UTC  

I would prefer a constitutional stratocracy.

2019-04-16 17:22:38 UTC  

do you have something more sensible to offer ? @Xychotic

2019-04-16 17:22:51 UTC  

@conker You're right. Everything TFM says is unarguable.

2019-04-16 17:23:16 UTC  

loool

2019-04-16 17:23:21 UTC  

I wouldn't go that far ...

2019-04-16 17:23:35 UTC  

he mades good arguments in general

2019-04-16 17:23:52 UTC  

What's a statocracy?

2019-04-16 17:24:06 UTC  

Military rule.

2019-04-16 17:24:10 UTC  

@Xychotic that would be still sort of a right extreme / fashist state
if I understand wikipedia correctly

2019-04-16 17:24:17 UTC  

Yeah hell no

2019-04-16 17:24:22 UTC  

And, yes, service guarantees citizenship.

2019-04-16 17:24:35 UTC  

ya know ... there was this dictator in chile, pinochet

2019-04-16 17:24:41 UTC  

And, no, stratocracy and fascism are not the same.

2019-04-16 17:24:44 UTC  

that worked remarkably well

2019-04-16 17:24:55 UTC  

That's a horrible idea

2019-04-16 17:24:59 UTC  

even 44% of the people back then voted for him to stay for 8 further years

2019-04-16 17:25:14 UTC  

One bad leader and it's a fascist dictatorship

2019-04-16 17:25:21 UTC  

right

2019-04-16 17:25:24 UTC  

exactly that

2019-04-16 17:25:43 UTC  

And the only way to prevent that would to be having the whole military know what's going on and be individual thinkers

2019-04-16 17:25:49 UTC  

How many governments are one bad leader away from a total shitshow?

2019-04-16 17:25:57 UTC  

Pretty much all of them.

2019-04-16 17:25:57 UTC  

And that's the exact opposite of what a military is