@conker ok. you can develop motor skills doing almost anything. and it depends what level of skill you're at, the pros for starcraft 2 have a better developed motor skill than a kid playing minecraft. i love video games and i can acknowledge that they're a waste of time, that doesn't lesson it at all because its just a game.

"time you enjoy wasting is not time wasted"

exactly

^^^^^

:^)

Meow

I just wanted to play devils advocate here,
in the last years I sort of switched to a model where I differenciate between productive and leisure activities

productive is everything, which counts towards making money, self improvement, etc - basically making my life better
while leisure is everything else- basically sort of waste of time 😛

but also "I hope you didnt just fuck around and waste your life OOOWEE" - Mr poopybutthole

So?

i made that video about my friend who does nothing but plays video games and nerdy shit and loves life. im not hating on it i approach it from a different point of view. there are so many things video games can offer, but they are an incredible shitload of things video games can't offer you.

yeah, but same goes for books

depends on the books fam

depends on the games as well 😛

I had to read tons of shit during school time

ok I'm done lol

romantic novels and shitty sci-fi sure. but there are metaphysical books than can change your modus operandi. a great game doesnt change my life

( a la kafka, etc :P)

while I did learn more about history / WW2 in the CoD games during the loading screens 😛

if the witcher 3 or <insert good game here> changed your outlook on life you're easily influenced

i learned so much from world of warcraft growing up.

You're being way too narrow minded.

👆

longest time in my youth i played a shit ton of Age of Empires 2, was the best history lesson :V

@Happy Humble Hermit lol, wtf ...
I maybe have 15 games in my steam list 😛

@Ettow awww yeah, AoE2 was SO great

Yeah, sure, a life changing story isn't the reason you buy a game. But does that mean it can't explore those themes? Does that mean a game can't dive into the same topics as century old philosophers?

Persona 3? Persona 4?

granted, I don't remember much of the games contents anymore,
but same applies to school contents as well

https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561198021333974/?cc=us

still, I love strategy games,
c&c is also great tactics, you can learn a lot of making good logical decisions in games

"140 games never played"

I'm sorry Hermit, but I think you're just entering into games with the mindset of a 14 year old playing call of duty.

If only SLIGHTLY better

wtf dudes ... why are you spending so much money in steam ...
I hate steam

cuz it's better than a lot of the shit out there

lul

(ok, I hate most of the publisher's plattforms, but I hate steam especially)

I don't buy games there, unless they are on sale , and <5$ or so xD

lul

the best gaming story is equivalent to a weak novel. the best games create experiences that utilize the interactive format. if i want to watch hours of cutscenes with dialogue that doesnt match or account for the events of the gameplay thats not a good story. but if the game rests on the individual choices and experiences of the player, it can transcend and do what books cannot