Message from @Mateo Aurelius

Discord ID: 780475038452678676


2020-11-23 16:17:53 UTC  

...we're talking about a weird mix of corporate / government authoritarianism...and they'll use that "health" basis to justify all types of regulations that will just benefit a small group in reality

2020-11-23 16:18:29 UTC  

Like now...small businesses are hurting...but the tech billionaires are getting richer because you are now LEGALLY forced to pretty much only use their services while the commoners rot.

2020-11-23 16:21:04 UTC  

Yeah dude, if they force vaccines I'm going to war.

2020-11-23 16:21:57 UTC  

Agreed. I'm all for vaccines...I mean hell, I've worked on research that indirectly benefited vaccine research when I was still a researcher....

2020-11-23 16:22:25 UTC  

but I'm not okay with authoritarianism...and we are quickly moving towards that...all so that people can be comfortable pets that live without any perception of risk

2020-11-23 16:23:22 UTC  

...but much like the cow that does not give milk, there will be little use for them once they have nothing to offer. Down the road, when automation rules and replaces the need for most jobs...there will be no need for the masses....the best they can hope for is to be a well-fed pet of the elite.

2020-11-23 16:25:58 UTC  

@Catsmart "Quick and dirty one" - I imagine Kamala is familiar with that all too well.

2020-11-23 16:26:24 UTC  

Is it just me or do parents that are lean right act like a left politician to their kids and parents that lean left act like a right politician towards their kids?

2020-11-23 16:27:36 UTC  

Yeah but most of the virus particles are suspended in aerosols, tiny tiny water droplets. Those tend to be larger and (at least the theory goes) that many of them will be hindered by the mask.

2020-11-23 16:27:55 UTC  

But I'm against the public mandate....I'm only okay with mandates for hospitals, nursing homes, etc. etc.

2020-11-23 16:28:00 UTC  

Nvm

2020-11-23 16:28:08 UTC  

You're going to have to elaborate.

2020-11-23 16:28:23 UTC  

I didn't understand what you meant exactly @ScarerOfTheCrow

2020-11-23 16:32:00 UTC  

No pun intended, believe it or not, must have been a bidean slip 😆

2020-11-23 16:32:00 UTC  

Where do I post satire video?

2020-11-23 16:32:26 UTC  

Read rule 15. If it fits under that rule, choose a meme channel. If not, <#719777555242287115>

2020-11-23 16:32:42 UTC  

Ok thanks

2020-11-23 16:36:35 UTC  

About particle size, if you're not wearing PROPERLY FIT and totally UNTOUCHED afterwards N95s or N100s (or if you're sick with the virus and use valved respirators) you're pretty much doing nothing. The size of vaping smoke particles: anywhere from 150nm to 450nm. The size of covid virii: 60nm to 140nm. What does a cloth mask do to stop vaping smoke particles? https://newtube.app/user/TonyHeller/nBpPU6o

2020-11-23 16:40:17 UTC  

I would ask you to at least attack what they are actually arguing for, not what they aren't. they are arguing that masks block some of the the particles the COVID-19 ride on, thus reducing how much of it gets in the air, thus reducing the chance that someone will get it. COVID-19 rarely travels in the air itself

2020-11-23 16:49:09 UTC  

I was exposed to a person who had covid for a total of 30 hours.

2020-11-23 16:49:45 UTC  

Inside a vehicle; I tested negative for covid.

2020-11-23 16:49:51 UTC  

smh

2020-11-23 16:49:54 UTC  

how dare you

2020-11-23 16:50:02 UTC  

you go against everything the left syas

2020-11-23 16:50:04 UTC  

says*

2020-11-23 16:50:04 UTC  

I didint wear a mask.

2020-11-23 16:50:11 UTC  

How dare you

2020-11-23 16:50:15 UTC  

<:jimmyhow:709928811013210224>

2020-11-23 16:55:25 UTC  

Lol.

2020-11-23 16:58:18 UTC  

I've already quoted scientific studies and major physician organizations that extensively explain how in general masks (except MAYBE very well used specific high filtering respirators without valves) are pretty much useless, and I also used particle size logic to support that claim, WHERE'S THE ATTACK?

2020-11-23 17:00:29 UTC  

Which probably means you already had it, maybe asymptomatic, or have had some sort of cross immunity from some older different coronavirus and are immune to it now.

2020-11-23 17:01:45 UTC  

I'd rather have covid than strep throat.

2020-11-23 17:11:23 UTC  

""Great" Look fat those are rookie numbers make it greater" biden probably

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730597788399960155/780480628579368970/image0.png

2020-11-23 17:13:29 UTC  

the particle size logic is what I was talking about. Generally, educated advocates for masks are saying that the specific particle of SARS-CoV-2 is not what masks are supposed to bloc. they are supposed to block the particles SARS-CoV-2 rides on. a lot of these are large enough to be blocked by a mask. therefore the "particle size logic" isn't fully correct. that is what they are saying. you are still trying to attack (refute) the argument based on the particle size of SARS-CoV-2 itself, at least as far as I can tell, hence why I said "attack what they are arguing, not what they aren't."
As for the scientific studies you sent the links to me for, so far *none* (of the ones I have read) have stated that masks don't prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2 from the infected person to a non-infected person. as far as I have read, they either 1: state that ILI's are not stopped by masks, neither by the infected person wearing a mask nor by the non-infected person wearing one to protect themselves (doesn't refer specifically to SARS-CoV-2), or 2: state that SARS-CoV-2 is not blocked by protecting *yourself* by wearing a mask, but does not evidence confirming or denying that an infected person, wearing a mask, can help prevent the spread of COVID-19. that is from all that I have read so far though, so I may have not read enough. I intend to read further when I get the time.

2020-11-23 17:28:03 UTC  

the meme about having a minor in bed is sus

2020-11-23 17:30:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730597788399960155/780485362601820161/IMG_20201107_094844_785.jpg

2020-11-23 17:35:31 UTC  

?

2020-11-23 17:35:58 UTC  

It’s a beefalo

2020-11-23 17:36:25 UTC  

oh that meme

2020-11-23 17:38:41 UTC  

The mask mandates are a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of believing that masks "do something" while science has quite frankly pointed out that masks do precious little even while following the best of mask usage guidelines (which 99.9% don't), and lockdowns and social distancing as well are ill motivated and at best based in incomplete science. For example the Finnish government DID NOT mandate mask usage, and they still have one of the LOWEST mortality rate from the covid virus: "Research has shown that widespread use of face masks have LITTLE OR NO EFFECT on reducing the spread of upper respiratory infections, according to a report presented a government-appointed working group led by the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health (MSAH) on Friday. "There is no scientific evidence for its use," Emerita Professor Marjukka Mäkelä said at a press briefing to unveil the report. The writers of the report reviewed scientific research on the use of protective masks and also examined mask practices and guidelines in several other countries."